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Alice Grove MCDLT - July 2016
hedgie:
--- Quote from: brasca on 22 Jul 2016, 00:57 ---Maybe for a few centuries, but it doesn't take long for people to forget when all they have is ancient books to reference or worse oral tradition. I think JimC is right about some other force being at work. Perhaps some secretive organization that maintains this level of development and thwarts any attempts to improve it. Perhaps they were the ones that stole Gavia's nanotechnology
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I'm inclined to agree with that assessment. I also think that many of those like Alice are the ones that provide enforcement, even if they're not involved with the cabal and unaware of what its actual aims are. 5000 years is a *lot* of institutional memory, and given Alice's flashbacks (likely quite common), she'd be very easy to push into doing so even without any serious effort at manipulation.
JimC:
--- Quote from: KOK on 22 Jul 2016, 06:22 ---No culture has been static for 1000 years. Neandertals maybe, but never Homo sapiens sapiens.
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Not even in, say, the Amazon basin or other places where people live with a Stone age culture?
Neko_Ali:
I don't think we can talk to much in generalities here. The sample size is just to low. So far we've seen Alice's village, who she kept control over. And the Archeaophiles. Or at least one of them. The rest of what we know of the world pretty much comes from Alice, so we are only seeing things through her viewpoint. There are other villages out there, but we don't know how often they interact with each other or what they are like. It is known that Alice keeps tight control of technology in her village though. She won't even let them mess with something as relatively simple as an electric well pump. If something goes wrong with it, they come to her to fix it. Though they are smart enough to figure it out. Basically, it looks like she has made sure her village is dependent on her, and has shown she's willing to use threats to enforce her will. So I'm not sure we can take her village as a sample of what the rest of the world is like.
KOK:
--- Quote from: JimC on 22 Jul 2016, 06:44 ---
--- Quote from: KOK on 22 Jul 2016, 06:22 ---No culture has been static for 1000 years. Neandertals maybe, but never Homo sapiens sapiens.
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Not even in, say, the Amazon basin or other places where people live with a Stone age culture?
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I do not know how much is known about them. But in those places where we have found artifacts spread over long periods, there is always development.
brasca:
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 22 Jul 2016, 05:45 ---Also true. But Alice's village has something that the pacifist pastoralists of history didn't, and that's Alice to defend them. I expect any low-tech army (and by low-tech I mean pre-20th century tech) that went up against Alice would quickly find itself decimated. Even a higher-tech army would find itself in a crisis of leadership as everyone above the rank of lieutenant suddenly found themselves dead at the hands of an unstoppable super-soldier assassin. This puts a severe brake on any wannabe conqueror.
And yes, I think Alice really is that good.
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So do I, but unless there are others like Alice throughout the world some settlements would evolve into city-states and begin to expand. Foolish conquerors might try to invade Alice's village while the wise would just be content to conquer everything around it and leave it alone. There's still a lot we don't know and while it's possible for there to be more immortals than Alice as we can see with Sedna they have philosophical differences and it might be quite possible that a few immortals could take it upon themselves to be more proactive in aiding humanity recover from the blink. Moreover, they would be evenly matched.
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