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WCDT Strips 3256-3260 (4-8 July 2016)
Tova:
--- Quote from: jheartney on 04 Jul 2016, 20:03 ---And I'll point out again that she's about to have her second relapse. Which she's hiding from Marten by doing it at Bubbles' place.
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We're going around in circles. Two is not consistently either. How many more choruses do you want?
And it's not two yet.
alanari:
--- Quote from: elfly on 04 Jul 2016, 11:06 ---
Faye relearning how to drink like a normal person is probably a good thing.
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An addict cannot and will never learn to drink normally again. A lot of them have tried. It's called "controlled drinking" and I have yet to read about a controlled drinker who did that long-term without relapse. Addiction doesn't work this way.
Addiction is a subconscious link between alcohol and certain happy hormones. The thing is, we don't control our subconscious mind. It controls us. Consciousness is a step behind, we don't do what we want, we want what we do. And it wants those happy-hormones.
If you are a heavy but non addicted drinker, you can change your drinking pattern. An addict can't.
I have addicts in my family, so I read a lot about their stories and how it works, to deal with them appropriately. I have read many stories from dry alcoholics who hadn't had a drink in 20 years. They have mostly happy, normal lives.
I have read one story from a "controlled drinker" who claims to have managed to do that for more than 2 years. His whole story was full of self-pity, no real self-reflection, which reached a high-point when he was contemplating about why he hit his woman in front of his kids on Christmas. He's a 100% wet alcoholic, he thinks like one, he acts like one (although most alcoholics use verbal aggression, not physical), he just doesn't want to see it and praises the advantages of controlled drinking wherever possible.
wlewisiii:
--- Quote from: chaospersonified on 04 Jul 2016, 11:55 ---Side note, draining a bottle of bourbon on your own, in one night, as Faye's history would suggest she's about to do, is anything BUT 'drinking like a normal person.'
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Well, are we talking a pint, fifth, quart, half gallon ... butt? A pint is not really all that much in some places (Wisconsin deer hunting camp, forex) and Churchill was alleged to go through a quart an evening at the hight of WWII.
All of which is to say, intended humorously, is that everyone is different and that one person's normal is another person's excess and a third person's teatotalling.
Tova:
The suspense is killing me.
Oenone:
One thing to keep in mind when looking at the recovery rates for substance abuse is that they're actually in line with the numbers associated with other chronic illnesses that require lifestyle management, like diabetes and hypertension. So, you'd actually kind of expect that their long term success rate would be kinda wonky... Especially because the best rates of success require both a long term commitment and a personal investment that you don't necessarily get in programs that have been court ordered.
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