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WCDT Strips 3271-3275* (25-29 July 2016)
Zebediah:
Brun seems to have developed adequate defenses against Renee's efforts to manage her life. It's probably why they're able to be friends. I strongly suspect that neither of them has many other friends.
Personally, I could handle Brun's blunt-to-the-point-of-rudeness honesty far better than I could handle Renee's overbearing control-freak meddling, however well-intentioned it might be.
Xader:
Incidentally, my wife makes a dish called "dog barf".
It's ground beef and baked beans simmered in tomato sauce with brown sugar.
It's a quick-n-easy recipe that is savory and a little sweet, but doesn't exactly look terribly appetizing. Great with cornbread, though.
brasca:
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 26 Jul 2016, 07:03 ---I don't think making dinner for a friend who is staying with you is presumptuous, nor is it unreasonable to expect a thank you rather than insults when you do.
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Perhaps, but maybe Brun was going to make herself a sandwich and then Renee cooks something and expects praise for her efforts. If Brun never asked her to make dinner or make that casserole for dinner it's hardly ingratitude.
Milayna:
....??? If someone does a favor for you you thank them and repay them if possible/appropriate regardless of whether that favor was actually of any practical benefit to you. Just look at holidays. I don't ask for underwear or food or gadgets or anything for my birthday/christmas - in fact I go out of my way to explicitly say I want NOTHING. Regardless I always get stuff, and I'm obliged to put on a show of gratitude and profuse thanks for it, and stress over whether I got other people stuff of enough value to balance the value they got me. It's how things work.
If Brun had her own plans or wasn't hungry or whatever it's totally possible to politely decline, and if Renee gets pushy about that...well, smiling and putting up with it is probably the best option, or politely but firmly confronting that behavior if she felt she HAD to. But either way insults are uncalled for.
Unless that's their friendly dynamic. I've seen that in play on occasion irl, though I don't understand it.
swapna:
--- Quote from: Thrillho on 26 Jul 2016, 04:46 ---
--- Quote from: gopher on 26 Jul 2016, 04:02 ---Where as some people can find the Author/fans view that Claire is so super cool she can do no wrong a little wearing to. People can have different opinions yet no-body is wrong.
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I have no issue with people not liking Claire. I have no issue with people not liking any character in the comic, because they're all fictional. I also don't think Claire is faultless, and Jeph clearly doesn't either. My point wasn't even about that, my point was about how I find it bizarre how seemingly personally offended people were that Claire booked the appointment, again because they're fictional.
There's a common thread in WCDTs of this personal offense being taken over character actions and it's just not something I've ever understood.
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In my case - I don't like Claire as a character, which would be okay in the setting, but both the storytelling and a lot of the forum treat Claire as great and cute, even when she's being annoying. This, in turn, is just frustrating for me; an annoying character who reaps what they sow makes for much more interesting stories (Faye, also a character that is hard to like, at least has to pay for her mistakes). Claire is treated as cute and likeable even when she's clearly not, and is forgiven her hypocrisy without even naming it.
So, no, I'm not offended by the character; I'm just annoyed by the way the storytelling treats her.
--- Quote from: Thrillho on 26 Jul 2016, 04:46 ---
--- Quote ---The decision should be made together with him. Yes, he can say "no", but he could always say no, even if she sprung this at him at the last second. Wouldn't make it 100% right. Making the arrangements before checking for his OK seems pushy.
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Sure, but also very common among a lot of people. Also, Clinton seems at worst mildly irritated by it and again actually into the idea. Can we not let Clinton make his own choices about how he feels?
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They just had a discussion about Claire being manipulative, and she promised to change. Asking would show that she has thought about what Clinton said, and that she respects and considers his feelings. She doesn't, and is still treated as sympathetic, that's why it's annoying.
--- Quote from: Milayna on 26 Jul 2016, 15:30 ---....??? If someone does a favor for you you thank them and repay them if possible/appropriate regardless of whether that favor was actually of any practical benefit to you. Just look at holidays. I don't ask for underwear or food or gadgets or anything for my birthday/christmas - in fact I go out of my way to explicitly say I want NOTHING. Regardless I always get stuff, and I'm obliged to put on a show of gratitude and profuse thanks for it, and stress over whether I got other people stuff of enough value to balance the value they got me. It's how things work.
If Brun had her own plans or wasn't hungry or whatever it's totally possible to politely decline, and if Renee gets pushy about that...well, smiling and putting up with it is probably the best option, or politely but firmly confronting that behavior if she felt she HAD to. But either way insults are uncalled for.
Unless that's their friendly dynamic. I've seen that in play on occasion irl, though I don't understand it.
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Yeah, right? It would also have been nice for Brun to cook something for Renee, or ask her out for dinner as thanks for letting her crash at her place.
And even if she can't help her honesty, 'dog vomit' isn't 'honest', it's insulting. "Dog food" would be debatable, 'weird' would probably be okay, even.
I don't even think Renee expects to be praised, a simple 'Thanks' would suffice; she's just sardonic because she has feelings, too.
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