Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - August 2016
jheartney:
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 01 Aug 2016, 14:52 ---She is sent to bring him back.
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Uh, no. She asked to be sent down. Her presence on Earth is at her own initiative.
brasca:
--- Quote from: jheartney on 01 Aug 2016, 19:21 ---
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 01 Aug 2016, 14:52 ---She is sent to bring him back.
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Uh, no. She asked to be sent down. Her presence on Earth is at her own initiative.
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And if she did not she'd be wracked with guilt for doing nothing. Just as Ardent would be if he let Gavia be killed by Alice or the Nightwalker. Only a sociopath would leave their siblings to die so that's hardly a free choice.
sitnspin:
A choice made under duress can not be equated with a choice freely made.
jheartney:
"Wracked with guilt" doesn't jibe at all with my impression of Gavia at the start of the comic. Remember, at that time she was operating under the assumption that both of them could get transport back to orbit just by asking. I don't think she was worried about Ardent so much as pissed at him that he'd left, and so she was going to take it on herself to go grab him by his pointed ears and drag him back up, in as humiliating a fashion as possible. She didn't think he was in danger; she thought he was being naughty, and, praeses pet that she was, she'd teach him a lesson. She was shocked and horrified to discover she was marooned on Earth with him. Even with nanotech.
brasca:
--- Quote from: jheartney on 01 Aug 2016, 22:40 ---"Wracked with guilt" doesn't jibe at all with my impression of Gavia at the start of the comic. Remember, at that time she was operating under the assumption that both of them could get transport back to orbit just by asking. I don't think she was worried about Ardent so much as pissed at him that he'd left, and so she was going to take it on herself to go grab him by his pointed ears and drag him back up, in as humiliating a fashion as possible. She didn't think he was in danger; she thought he was being naughty, and, praeses pet that she was, she'd teach him a lesson. She was shocked and horrified to discover she was marooned on Earth with him. Even with nanotech.
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I'm referring to her doing nothing at all after hearing that Ardent went to Earth. She could've decided that it would serve him right if his wanderlust lead to banishment, but she'd probably spend the rest of her life worried about what happened to her brother so she went off to retrieve him. Moreover, after the near fatal beat down she got from Alice she was still willing to risk defending him when Alice came to the conclusion that the only way to stop whatever the Praeses had planned was to kill Ardent. She cares about him for all the good that has done so is it really so much that she should lash out at him since his actions have ultimately lead to where she is right now. And do keep in mind she only woke up from that coma a few days ago. She is still processing a lot and taking it a lot better than most of us.
--- Quote from: Kugai on 01 Aug 2016, 13:57 ---OK, I'm getting tired of Gavias attitude.
Yes, she's only down there because Ardent went down and she followed to bring him back, but being stuck there isn't Ardents fault, the Praeses have, for some reason, abandoned them there.
Yes, she lost her Nanotech abilities because the Night Walker stole it and used it for whatever purpose, but Ardent didn't call the Night Walker to do it, nor, I believe, would he want that to happen to her. He's just not that kind of a guy.
Someone needs to give Gavia a good slap upside the head and a dressing down. She's behaving like a spoiled brat.
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Ardent may not be completely to blame for everything that happened, but his actions have had consequences for her more than him and aside from being apologetic about the whole thing has he displayed any evidence to make her think he's changed? If he is a danger to her well being it makes perfect sense to have nothing more to do with him once they return.
While I think Ardent might be right about her having fun with the archaeophiles or at least see if they are worth spending time with his judgment of things really isn't the best so I cannot fault her for preferring to remain where she is. A brat would be looking for attention and making everyone feel sorry for her. She's just keeping to herself and not bothering anybody except the one person who won't leave her alone and has the greatest reason to dislike. She's an introvert who shouldn't have to join the crowd because it's the popular thing to do. For someone with the patron saint of misery chicks as an avatar I would think you'd be more sympathetic.
--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 01 Aug 2016, 14:03 ---
Well, she IS a spoiled brat.
She's slowly been stripped of her 'spoiled' credentials since arriving, but is still stubbornly holding on to the 'brat'.
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Who among us isn't? Seriously we live our first world lives arguing about fictional characters. If we were suddenly flung into a backward foreign world with no money or technology because of a loved one's carelessness we probably wouldn't be nearly as pleasant about it.
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