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Alice Grove MCDLT - September 2016
retrosteve:
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--- Quote from: retrosteve on 05 Sep 2016, 22:16 ---It would be really hard (not impossible, just unlikely) for Heterochromia Guy to be an AI,
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So if there's an AI functioning on Earth, he must be a tourist like Ardent and Gavia.
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Alice's alarm (I'm not sure it's simply fear) could be because she realises that what she believed to be the truth about this has been violated.
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Could be. I've decided that the backstory page I just linked to is the absolute truth, as Alice sees it. None of her actions and theories make sense unless she believes that backstory.
But she could still be incorrect.
brasca:
--- Quote from: retrosteve on 05 Sep 2016, 23:48 ---
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 05 Sep 2016, 23:21 ---
--- Quote from: retrosteve on 05 Sep 2016, 22:16 ---It would be really hard (not impossible, just unlikely) for Heterochromia Guy to be an AI,
...
So if there's an AI functioning on Earth, he must be a tourist like Ardent and Gavia.
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Alice's alarm (I'm not sure it's simply fear) could be because she realises that what she believed to be the truth about this has been violated.
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Could be. I've decided that the backstory page I just linked to is the absolute truth, as Alice sees it. None of her actions and theories make sense unless she believes that backstory.
But she could still be incorrect.
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Sedna confirmed that Alice doesn't lie, but that doesn't mean she's right about what happened to the AIs. It may just be her interpretation of history based on what she saw and put together through the years.
As such the big man could be the first AI she's seen since the blink which has her both shocked and scared because so far the only thing that has scared her is Ardent's potential to restart all the old conflicts. He's someone she never expected could be a problem and if the big guy is an AI then that could be all the more unnerving since she hasn't seen one for thousands of years.
Pogopotamus:
If we hold to the position "all AI vanished" as hard fact then we have two (Alice and Sedna) "entities" that are virtually immortal, capable of surviving being in molten rock, sprouting armor and breaking reinforced concrete. If these aren't advanced tech based constructs or magic we're not left with a lot of options and nanotech is not one of them since the nanotech gobbler had no interest in them. One thing that has come across re Alice's comments is that while she knows a lot of things she doesn't know everything so the door is open to surprises.
The other issue is that whatever changed the earth in the blink changed time and physics as well since there are "new stars" in the sky and physical laws are changed. This is way beyond the (stated so far) tech of the Prases or the AI faction and speaks to a God level entity behind the scenes somewhere if Jeph is going to hold true to his stated world creation.
retrosteve:
--- Quote from: Pogopotamus on 06 Sep 2016, 07:24 ---If we hold to the position "all AI vanished" as hard fact then we have two (Alice and Sedna) "entities" that are virtually immortal, capable of surviving being in molten rock, sprouting armor and breaking reinforced concrete. If these aren't advanced tech based constructs or magic we're not left with a lot of options and nanotech is not one of them since the nanotech gobbler had no interest in them. One thing that has come across re Alice's comments is that while she knows a lot of things she doesn't know everything so the door is open to surprises.
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If she isn't lying, then she believes all AI's vanished. If she is an AI, she doesn't know it. And she is smart, and has had 5000 years to wonder how her body got so awesome. She would know. She did mention a biotech faction that made wonderful things, strong enough to be evenly matched with the techno faction. I can only assume she is one of them, the biotech constructs.
--- Quote ---The other issue is that whatever changed the earth in the blink changed time and physics as well since there are "new stars" in the sky and physical laws are changed. This is way beyond the (stated so far) tech of the Prases or the AI faction and speaks to a God level entity behind the scenes somewhere if Jeph is going to hold true to his stated world creation.
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Absolutely. The Blink was caused by a godlike entity. That entity has not yet chosen to appear.
FunkyTuba:
--- Quote from: retrosteve on 06 Sep 2016, 09:55 ---Absolutely. The Blink was caused by a godlike entity. That entity has not yet chosen to appear[...]
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...or reveal itself.
--- Quote from: FunkyTuba on 29 Aug 2016, 15:15 ---Heterochromia Goon[...] looks like he was badly broken and put back together uncarefully.
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I'm going to reiterate this and posit further that Alice broke him and Mr Pate put him back together.
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