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WCDT Strips 3356-3360 (21st to 25th November 2016)
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Perfectly Reasonable on 25 Nov 2016, 17:20 ---And changing her face from blue to khaki to white is suspicious, amirite?
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Given the problem she had with the parole officer about the repair in the first place, the fact that she got a repair down at an unlicensed operation that is also host to a criminal venture, her face is literally evidence.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 25 Nov 2016, 03:17 ---
--- Quote from: Storel on 25 Nov 2016, 01:24 ---
--- Quote from: Akima on 24 Nov 2016, 23:57 ---Can you be a "known criminal" if you've never been convicted of anything?
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Do we know that Corpse Witch has never been convicted of anything?
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More to the point, does May know? There are a lot of convicted criminals in the world. Can the cops say "woah there, missy, we saw you go into that grocery store whose owner was once convicted for drunk driving, it's the slammer for you."
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Yes, if they want to.
One of the horror stories I read about was a guy on parole or probation who reasoned that if he went into a bar when it was otherwise empty, then he'd be safe since the bartender had to have a clean record to get a license.
The bartender had lied on the job application and did have a record. The customer went back to prison.
Another decided there was no way to check everyone he associated with for a criminal record so he'd simply never associate with anyone.
In the archives of Grits For Breakfast is a quote from a Texas probation administrator to the effect that if he ever has a choice between dealing with his own department or going behind bars and razor wire and eating expired food, he'll choose prison.
For certain there must be probation departments that strive for rehabilitation and re-entry. Many are part of the prison-industrial complex though.
WareWolf:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 25 Nov 2016, 18:11 ---
--- Quote from: TinPenguin on 25 Nov 2016, 03:17 ---
--- Quote from: Storel on 25 Nov 2016, 01:24 ---
--- Quote from: Akima on 24 Nov 2016, 23:57 ---Can you be a "known criminal" if you've never been convicted of anything?
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Do we know that Corpse Witch has never been convicted of anything?
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More to the point, does May know? There are a lot of convicted criminals in the world. Can the cops say "woah there, missy, we saw you go into that grocery store whose owner was once convicted for drunk driving, it's the slammer for you."
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Yes, if they want to.
One of the horror stories I read about was a guy on parole or probation who reasoned that if he went into a bar when it was otherwise empty, then he'd be safe since the bartender had to have a clean record to get a license.
The bartender had lied on the job application and did have a record. The customer went back to prison.
Another decided there was no way to check everyone he associated with for a criminal record so he'd simply never associate with anyone.
In the archives of Grits For Breakfast is a quote from a Texas probation administrator to the effect that if he ever has a choice between dealing with his own department or going behind bars and razor wire and eating expired food, he'll choose prison.
For certain there must be probation departments that strive for rehabilitation and re-entry. Many are part of the prison-industrial complex though.
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Sad but true. As someone on the defense side who regularly deals with alleged probation violations, I can also attest that a major factor for the PO is "if I get this lunk sent to prison, I can get them off my caseload." There are also judges that are stewing over sentencing guidelines that require them to put certain offenders on probation. They cannot WAIT to see the people they wanted to send off in the first place come back before them. And as for "I didn't know" (aka "lack of intent"): cue judicial eye-rolling.
Cynical? Moi?
Method of Madness:
Why would people like that become probation officers? Do they want to ruin lives?
Neko_Ali:
Like many things, there are a lot of reasons why people do what they do. Some of them yes, are just mean and nasty. Most of them are just trying to do their jobs though. And any job in the prison industry you are going to become jaded and cynical at. Consider the fact that a fair bit of the people they have to deal with are not the 'I did my time and learned my lesson. Now I want to live a good life.' A best their clients (is that right term here?) are just as jaded and cynical as they are, and they know the system is stacked against them. They resent that they have to keep reporting in, justify any and every action they take while hopefully trying to keep a job, if they can find one in the first place. Most people in the parole office and their clients look at each other as adversaries. That never makes for a good relationship. Especially when one side has the ability to strip away the other side's freedom with a phone call and a signature. And a lot of times it won't be questioned. And that's not counting the fact that the system is set up so basically, you can be sent back to prison at any time. It's almost impossible not to break parole in some way, even if you are trying very hard not to.
In the best cases, the parole officer knows their clients are lying to them repeatedly. It's up to them to figure out when and how they are lying, and if it's something worth sending them back to jail over. In the worst cases, the parole officer if a corrupt scumbag who enjoys feeling power over their client's lives, possibly even extorting them to do things or threaten to send them back to jail. Since most of the time a judge is going to believe someone involved in law enforcement over a criminal, it's hard to stop them. Just all part of why the prison system is horrible.
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