Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - December 2016
sitnspin:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 17 Dec 2016, 14:31 ---Ardent doesn't want to get "the girl" - he wants to get all the girls!
(Disclaimer - my avatar on my other main forum is currently Ardent from today's comic.)
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I can hardly fault him for that, I am of a similar mindset.
Is it cold in here?:
Welcome, new person!
Sedna did not punch the carriage as hard as Alice punched the bunker. Why? Because she couldn't? Because flying debris could have hurt bystanders?
The other noteworthy thing is that Alice was pulling her punches drastically when she beat up Gavia. Put that together with how much she was enjoying it and it reminds me of a cat torturing a mouse.
Pogopotamus:
Re Church "choosing" to kill Ellie from a fair is fair perspective we have to remember that Ellie was most definitely trying to kill Church and did not know he was an android. She hit him in the head with a thick metal bar so hard it bent. That blow would have easily fatally crushed the skull of any human being. And why was she trying to kill hiim? For stopping the violent destruction of his bosses property. Ellie was trying to *kill* him for doing his job.
There's more to the moral calculus here than "innocent Ellie got killed by the murder bot". If you are trying to eat the bear and the bear eats you that's what happens sometimes.
Also Sedna hardly seems to be a position to be pontificating about "choice". Recall that just a little bit ago she was peppering human bystanders to Alice with live ammo. If Gavia had not had a shield they would all be dead from bullet wounds.
Neko_Ali:
Regardless of how you want to dress it up, if he has any free agency at all, he chose to kill Ellie, and enjoyed the chance to do so, by his look.
Ellie attacked Church, after he badly injured her friend. Since the surprise attack happened immediately after Church crushed Sedna's shoulder, she must have seen it happen. It's a fair assumption to think that she knows how tough Sedna is. Even if she didn't know Church was super human, anyone who could do that to Sedna was clearly a threat, so yes, she went for deadly force. or what she thought was deadly anyway. It's not like she could call the non-existent police. Also, as far as Pate being her boss... He's only somewhat so. He's her backer. There is a difference. Ellie attacked Church to defend her injured friend. Church killed Ellie because he could. He wasn't even in danger from her. Big difference between the two.
Sedna was shooting at people who were invading her homestead without an announcement. And yes, Sedna is exactly in the position to talk about choice. All three enhanced people can easily kill someone or not. Nor are normal people any great danger to them if any at all. So killing is very much a choice. Alice and Sedna are not nice people. They've never claimed to be either. They've certainly never pretended there is no blood on their hands. Killing Ellie was still a choice Church made. And it's not like they are even pretending they are on a moral high ground here. Sedna straight up says she wants to kill Church for killing her friend. Not 'bring him to justice' or any flowery terms. "He's a monster, I'm going to put him on a spike."
TinPenguin:
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 18 Dec 2016, 15:56 ---Alice and Sedna are not nice people.
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