Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - December 2016
BenRG:
Pate has factored that in; that's why he has Ardent down there.
FWIW, I'm beginning to lean towards this being a 'converging agenda' scenario. Ardent and Gavia were sent to force those on Earth to directly open contact with the Praeses; Pate wants to see them for his own reasons but it is a useful coincidence. I've got the feeling that the Praeses are going to find that Pate is no-one's pawn and that the Pate is going to find that it is a lot harder to dictate terms to a multi-millennia old non-human semi hive-intelligence than it is to a small group of post-humans.
As for our heroes? Alice is going to get Gavia and Sedna fixed up and then they will flee the orbital habitat in an escape pod before the shooting starts. After that, it is a matter of finding the beings responsible for the Blink and getting them to intervene before the Great War starts anew. I'm guessing that the big twist will be that the Night Walker wiped out the Architects; just enough information is left over in the ruined moonbase for Alice to reconstruct their plans going forward and it falls to her... to the woman bred to be a weapon of total war... to find a way to become a maker of peace.
I will shout in rage if Alice ends up, battered and on her last reserves of strength, in front of a holographic avatar of the collective of the sentient AIs that informs her that the equation has changed; the simple fact of her existence has changed it forever. She can end this crisis but she must choose which method she uses:
* DESTROY - Annihilate all post-humans and all advanced technology, including herself, Sedna, Gavia and Ardent and leave the humans in peace to remake their civilisation on their own terms;
* CONTROL - Use nano-tech to become a controlling hub for all of humanity and its children, preventing war by being the single eternal and infinite mind underlying them all; 'Alice' would cease to exist but her hopes, fears, dreams and beliefs would be the framework around which the new order is created and organised;
* SYNTHESIS - Merge all humans and post-humans into a single homogenous group sharing eachother's characteristics and being interlinked together on a fundamental level; the war will end because there would be no more differences to fight over and, to a greater or lesser extent, all will be one.
Thrudd:
--- Quote from: brasca on 25 Dec 2016, 20:38 ---I would think the radioactivity would diminish over the millennia, but this could be an advanced form of it or perhaps whatever is down there was buried under tons of concrete because it's just highly toxic waste. Pate isn't completely certain what's down there.
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Just a reminder on the subject of Radioactivity and it diminishing over time.
- Yes it is true
- Yes some isotopes can go from kill you outright in minutes to meh in a decade or less
- Plutonium - weapons grade - has a half life of less than 25,000 years - so after 5,000 they are all still viable
- BUT some have a half life of millennia
- Then there is that little toy called a breeder reactor that if automated could produce long lived isotopes and be active for a stupid long period of time.
brasca:
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 26 Dec 2016, 06:31 ---Or it's a code phrase and she wasn't talking to Pate at all, but signalling Sedna.
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I hope they had enough time to think that up, but I'm not entirely sure when and how. Church may have exceptionally good hearing and could detect whispering from long distances and even if he doesn't do they really want to take that risk? If they intend to communicate secretly passing notes would be the best way to go for now and only when they aren't being watched by Church or Pate. We don't know what transpired since Pate's ultimatum and Alice breaking through the concrete. Maybe Pate was feeling overconfident enough to let Alice attend to Sedna's wounds alone while he chatted with Ardent after sobering up, but after that he had Ardent and Sedna stay in that cabin while Alice breached the bunker. Gavia is noticeably absent, but if I had to guess Pate probably had her close by as an incentive for Alice to not do anything contrary to his plan as well as keep Ardent from escaping. As such this makes plotting behind Pate's back difficult.
retrosteve:
--- Quote from: FunkyTuba on 15 Dec 2016, 12:13 --- Also none of them wear glasses, Pate does. I think this would imply that being non-baseline carries with it a basic level of feature correction before whatever augmentation is added.
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In fact, Pate wears glowing glasses, which like Dale's I took to be a kind of computer display.
Storel:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 30 Dec 2016, 03:58 ---I will shout in rage if Alice ends up, battered and on her last reserves of strength, in front of a holographic avatar of the collective of the sentient AIs that informs her that the equation has changed; the simple fact of her existence has changed it forever. She can end this crisis but she must choose which method she uses:
* DESTROY - Annihilate all post-humans and all advanced technology, including herself, Sedna, Gavia and Ardent and leave the humans in peace to remake their civilisation on their own terms;
* CONTROL - Use nano-tech to become a controlling hub for all of humanity and its children, preventing war by being the single eternal and infinite mind underlying them all; 'Alice' would cease to exist but her hopes, fears, dreams and beliefs would be the framework around which the new order is created and organised;
* SYNTHESIS - Merge all humans and post-humans into a single homogenous group sharing eachother's characteristics and being interlinked together on a fundamental level; the war will end because there would be no more differences to fight over and, to a greater or lesser extent, all will be one.
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That's an... oddly specific scenario to arouse your rage, plus it sounds (to me) more interesting than enraging. Was that taken wholesale from some anime?
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