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Alice Grove MCDLT - December 2016

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retrosteve:

--- Quote from: brasca on 02 Dec 2016, 18:33 --- I still think this is a trap.  They knew about Pate and how he controls someone more powerful than Alice so they scheme to get him to leave Earth with his bodyguard and unwilling companions and once they've reached the habitat they'll do something to nullify their powers or quite possibly use a device that directs their vessel away from Earth. 

--- End quote ---

I can't see the Praeses being able to know that much about Earth. If they were powerful enough to know all that, and sinister enough to make such bold and devious plans, they wouldn't have been content to hang around babysitting space humans for 5000 years.

The guy who did the Blink, now that thing is intelligent. But I think the Praeses are just babysitters.

They may well have been bored and curious, though. And then sent Ardent and Gavia along to find out more about Earth, which they otherwise can't observe in detail.

brasca:

--- Quote from: retrosteve on 02 Dec 2016, 18:54 ---
--- Quote from: brasca on 02 Dec 2016, 18:33 --- I still think this is a trap.  They knew about Pate and how he controls someone more powerful than Alice so they scheme to get him to leave Earth with his bodyguard and unwilling companions and once they've reached the habitat they'll do something to nullify their powers or quite possibly use a device that directs their vessel away from Earth. 

--- End quote ---

I can't see the Praeses being able to know that much about Earth. If they were powerful enough to know all that, and sinister enough to make such bold and devious plans, they wouldn't have been content to hang around babysitting space humans for 5000 years.

The guy who did the Blink, now that thing is intelligent. But I think the Praeses are just babysitters.

They may well have been bored and curious, though. And then sent Ardent and Gavia along to find out more about Earth, which they otherwise can't observe in detail.

--- End quote ---

I should have prefaced that with "if." I can't be certain that they know anything about Pate, but if they do and it seems likely that they would because of his interest in restoring lost technology.  I imagine that the Praeses first noticed him after one of his scientists tried to get a radio to work.  Once they detected such anomalies they would probably investigate and determine that he could be an ally or an obstacle to their plans. 

BenRG:
My vote is complex because I expect that Pate and the Praeses will come to a mutually beneficial deal... in their own minds. Basically, they'll both go to the negotiating table with the intent of manipulating and betraying the other for their own ideological (Praeses) or selfish personal (Pate) benefit. They'll shake hands, go their separate ways and, the very moment they're out of sight of each other, immediately put their plan to destroy the other into motion.

Lex Luthor 'teaming up' with the Skrull Empire is as close a pop culture parallel that I can think of.

brasca:
Perhaps, but I still think Pate will get the same deal Bruno Manheim got from Darkseid. 

//www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmaQAlpBWWk

Skewbrow:
Hmm. Alice got may be 6 ft head start on Church yet he caught her more or less immediately. We now have a better idea of their relative abilities. No need to add extra for reaction time, because obviously Church was monitoring Alice very carefully all the way through Pate's little speech.

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