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Alice Grove MCDLT - December 2016

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cesium133:
Possibility #2 sounds very likely. It may even be hinted at here, where Mr. Church is shown looking at Pate as he talks about the power that may be obtained from those archeological endeavors.

Incidentally, unless I'm mistaken, Church has never spoken since he's arrived. If he is a revived AI or something from millennia ago, then that would make sense. If he's only recently been revived, he might not speak the language that everyone else there speaks. Languages change drastically over the course of thousands of years, particularly in this scenario where communication over long distances appears to be limited.

plusorminus:

--- Quote from: pwhodges on 08 Dec 2016, 00:12 ---
--- Quote from: plusorminus on 07 Dec 2016, 21:02 ---... Lurch ...
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Do you have any reason for calling Church "Lurch", or do you simply prefer not to use the name that his creator bestowed on him and which everyone else uses?  (And does this relate to your appearing to query the name "Corpse Witch" in the other comic?)

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It's .... a joke. You can feel quite free to block me so you can be spared any more of my attempts at humor.

And I don't understand your second question and feel like it's off topic here. You don't care for me or my posts, it seems. It's all good. The block button is a handy device.

plusorminus:

--- Quote from: plusorminus on 08 Dec 2016, 20:04 ---
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 08 Dec 2016, 00:12 ---
--- Quote from: plusorminus on 07 Dec 2016, 21:02 ---... Lurch ...
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Do you have any reason for calling Church "Lurch", or do you simply prefer not to use the name that his creator bestowed on him and which everyone else uses?  (And does this relate to your appearing to query the name "Corpse Witch" in the other comic?)

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It's .... a joke. You can feel quite free to block me so you can be spared any more of my attempts at humor.

And I don't understand your second question and feel like it's off topic here. You don't care for me or my posts, it seems. It's all good. The block button is a handy device.


--- Quote from: Samik on 08 Dec 2016, 15:53 ---We're forgetting something.

The blink happened thousands of years ago. Just like Alice has been around all that time, Mr. Church has to have been too. And he certainly wasn't under Pate's control all that time.

This suggests two possibilities:
1.) Church has some limitation or throttling that compels him to either have a master or need to collaborate to accomplish what he wants to accomplish, and moves from partnership to partnership as the other parties age/die, or
2.) Pate came into possession of him somehow. For example, maybe he was deactivated and stored, and Pate discovered him, and was able to adjust his programming in some way before activating him.

I like possibility #2. It also fits well with Pate's archaeological endeavors. I'll bet he's found more than a couple interesting and useful curiosities.

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I think it is almost certainly option #2. Without his glasses, Pate looks much younger than when he first appeared. Unless he really is an AI or an enhanced human, there's nothing much about him, physically, that seems to scream "Choose me as your leader!" Yet people follow him unquestioningly. If he inherited Lurch somehow, then that would be a huge motivator for people to obey him and for his man to stay at his side and do his bidding.
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brasca:

--- Quote from: cesium133 on 08 Dec 2016, 16:06 ---Possibility #2 sounds very likely. It may even be hinted at here, where Mr. Church is shown looking at Pate as he talks about the power that may be obtained from those archeological endeavors.

Incidentally, unless I'm mistaken, Church has never spoken since he's arrived. If he is a revived AI or something from millennia ago, then that would make sense. If he's only recently been revived, he might not speak the language that everyone else there speaks. Languages change drastically over the course of thousands of years, particularly in this scenario where communication over long distances appears to be limited.

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That's why Pate reminds me of Alex Rosewater from Big O.  He's a rich and powerful ruler of a city obsessed with finding out how to operate old technology.  Quite possibly he found Church buried somewhere.  He may have been damaged hence the eye that is probably fake since it didn't turn red when he attacked Ellie.  Once he got him operational he had the perfect enforcer at his beck and call.  It's also possible that an ancestor of Pate recovered Church and he's been with the family for generations. 

BenRG:
New comic up!

No great revelations other than proof that Alice can crack 3-foot thick concrete with one punch.

I've just got this horrible feeling that Pate's scheme will go exactly according to his plan and it won't work out well for him at all. As a certain Vulcan said to the man who cuckolded him at his wedding: "I believe that you will shortly find that desiring and possessing are very different experiences."

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