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WCDT Strips 3406-3410 (28 January - 3 February 2017)
JWoodrell:
Or a more twisted fate. CW ends up as a tamagotchi on someones keyring just lying on the counter... it buzzes and beeps, someone picks it up and says "oohh it looks angry, i wonder if its hungry", cut to pixelized CW face frowning on the little screen making angry motions
Gyrre:
--- Quote from: Tova on 03 Feb 2017, 00:12 ---Belief without proof" is a common definition of "faith." But when one is exhorted to "have faith," that isn't an exhortation to believe. It's an exhortation to trust.
And one can choose to trust.
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In this case, yes very much so.
However, for those made uncomfortable by the word faith, vid.
The video's title refers to a quote Albert Einstein is credited with and his refusal to accept the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2Vx9qoLzFs
If you don't want to watch the vid, that's fine. Just look into Gödell's Proof.
Gyrre:
--- Quote from: jwhouk on 03 Feb 2017, 03:27 ---
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 02 Feb 2017, 21:58 ---"I choose to have faith" never made sense to me. The idea that you could choose what you believe in.
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--- Quote from: Geddy Lee ---"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice..."
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But that's literally how faith works. You either believe something or you choose not to.
When you dig down to the deepest, most bare bones aspects of a thing, there's going to be some stuff that you just have to take on faith (these are termed as 'axioms' or 'proofs').
1+1=2 because 1+1=2
faith ≠ religion
Faith is the foundation of religion and the starting point of science.
Method of Madness:
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 03 Feb 2017, 06:56 ---But that's literally how faith works. You either believe something or you choose not to.
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I'd make a small but significant change. You either believe something or you don't. How is not believing in something an active choice? I've never chosen to not believe in something, but there is plenty I don't believe in.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 03 Feb 2017, 07:42 ---
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 03 Feb 2017, 06:56 ---But that's literally how faith works. You either believe something or you choose not to.
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I'd make a small but significant change. You either believe something or you don't. How is not believing in something an active choice? I've never chosen to not believe in something, but there is plenty I don't believe in.
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Because you look into something, consider the arguments and say: "No, I choose not to believe this; if there is any evidence in its favour, it is misleading or falsified." Or you could say: "Having looked into this matter, I consider it worthy of belief, even though the evidence is equivocal or only circumstantial as I consider the overall scenario presented more compelling."
Interestingly, the ancient Greek word from where we derive the modern concept of 'faith' is an economic term referring to a promissory note or bill of sale for an item not yet delivered to us. You have paid for this item, although you have not yet taken possession, because you believe that the person making the sale will deliver. You choose to have faith in them.
In some scenarios, a conscious choice of disbelief can be as much a matter of faith as a conscious choice of belief.
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