Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - February 2017
brasca:
--- Quote from: Kugai on 13 Feb 2017, 14:13 ---I wonder if Gavia is thinking of shoving Church out theAirlock/Hatch, and would he burn up rentry or just crash land and be annoyed/
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I'm not sure how she'd manage that when Alice and Sedna couldn't scratch him. However, the ship may have a voice operated ejector seat so if Ardent wants to get rid of the uninvited guests this would be the time.
--- Quote from: Skewbrow on 13 Feb 2017, 14:04 ---Should they not be floating in zero-g now? (or, more accurately, be in a free fall orbit for the same effect). I guess the ship could still be accelerating up. Don't know how well Newton's second meshes with teleportation :-)
What I find a bit strange is that this party does not carry any luggage. No spare food, water, spare clothes, nothing. Remember how well Sedna and Alice stocked up for the trip across the desert. I guess they don't need to be armed, but it's more like they expect to find the space equivalent of a burger joint sooner rather than later.
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If Pate knows anything about the ancient spacecraft he probably anticipated that the journey wouldn't take more than a day and to get what he wants is willing to rough it. Moreover, Ardent upgraded is far beyond its original capabilities so who knows what it can do aside from teleport miles above Earth within seconds. For all we know it could have a replicator.
OldGoat:
--- Quote from: Skewbrow on 13 Feb 2017, 14:04 ---Should they not be floating in zero-g now? (or, more accurately, be in a free fall orbit for the same effect). I guess the ship could still be accelerating up. Don't know how well Newton's second meshes with teleportation :-)
What I find a bit strange is that this party does not carry any luggage. No spare food, water, spare clothes, nothing. Remember how well Sedna and Alice stocked up for the trip across the desert. I guess they don't need to be armed, but it's more like they expect to find the space equivalent of a burger joint sooner rather than later.
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Pretty close quarters in there, even if Church wasn't on board. Even if it is a zero G environment, everyone's wedged in.
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 13 Feb 2017, 10:15 ---Church is bored. "We teleported into space? Ho-hum. Wake me if something interesting happens."
Meanwhile it's clear that Alice and Sedna have never been to space before. Pate too, for that matter, though for some reason he looks frightened while Alice and Sedna seem merely amazed.
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Or is Church hugging himself because he's starting to feel spacesick? There's a very good reason NASA's zero gravity training aircraft are all called "the Vomit Comet." Everyone has some weakness, and motion sickness may be his. If Jeph has this in mind, watch for Alice to be taking note.
mikmaxs:
Yeah, since nobody knows the capabilities of the ship (Including the characters,) it's hard to predict what would happen, but if I were Ardent, and the ship responded to whatever I wanted it to do, I'd look into opening a nice little airlock hole right about Mr. Church. Even if he survives the fall back down to earth, he's going to be really, really far away.
Skewbrow:
Church thru an airlock? An interesting possibility. Let's do some ball park math. Assume that the cabin pressure is still approximately one atmosphere. Church is a big dude, so one half of his surface area is close to one square meter. Therefore the force of the pressure difference (vacuum on the other side) on his body would be very close to ten metric tons. It would be interesting to see whether he could manage...
Hmm. I'm sure many of you remember the scene where James Bond wrestles a parachute from Jaws mid-air. If they manage to eject Church putting him to an Earth bound orbit it would be just like that. Dude falls, impacts, dusts off, and carries on. At least in a sequel.
OTOH, ejecting Church forward would mean that he stays on orbit (unless he has a personal means of propulsion).
Neko_Ali:
There are three main problems with the 'chuck Church out an airlock' idea. Assuming they could open an airlock right where he is sitting, there is only so much air in that tiny cabin. Remember basic physics. Explosive decompression isn't space actively sucking things out of an extra terrestrial enclosure. It's sudden and dramatic equalization of atmospheric pressure between the cabin and vacuum. There can't be more than a second or two of air there before the cabin would be a vacuum, and the expelling force would stop. Secondly, explosive decompression would affect everyone. Considering again how small the area is and how close they are sitting, even if it did work, chances are that only Church would be ejected are slim. Gavia and Pate are closest, so they would likely go out as well, if not everyone. Finally... Church has already shown he is incredibly strong and has better reflexes that anyone else there. Even caught unawares it is highly doubtful he wouldn't be able to brace himself to prevent being sucked out for the second or two of explosive decompression.
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