Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - February 2017
brasca:
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--- Quote from: brasca on 21 Feb 2017, 14:15 ---Considering all the fantastic possibilities demonstrated by Ardent's ability I'd find it hard to believe that the Praeses couldn't monitor its use. They probably know that he turned an ancient space fighter into a teleporting bubble ship and can shut it down at any time it becomes a problem for them. It's still unclear as to what their scheme is, but most likely they wanted to get those that would oppose their invasion of Earth out of the way. Pate may be an exception. If he's smart he'll accept their offer to be an exalted middle man since I doubt he's going to get anything better. Given his expression I think he's so in awe of what he sees he might just forget to throw his weight around and readily agree without the Praeses providing a demonstration that would probably be aimed at Church.
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Why would they offer Pate anything? His only leverage is Church, and it's not clear how much that means in this context. I could see them pushing Church out into space to flail aimlessly as he floats in orbit. At which point Pate is all alone up against a pair of pissed-off immortals whose friend he had murdered.
I'm guessing the whole point of Operation Blue Boy was to collect Alice and bring her up to the orbitals. Maybe Sedna too, but it's hard to see how they could have foreseen that. Pate is probably just an extra baseline human they have no use for. Church might be a bit of a bonus, provided they don't end up having to space him.
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The Praeses plan will go more smoothly if its being carried out by a human most people know. And if there are unexpected difficulties Pate can be the scapegoat too. I think the scheme was to collect Alice and Church, however, Sedna is just a bonus. She could be a problem, but since she largely kept to her self by the time she realized what was up it would probably be too late to do anything. Alice told Gavia that if her people invaded she'd see to it that the losses would be catastrophic so she's fairly confident that she could defeat an invasion force and it's safe to say Church would have no problems, but that was when they were on Earth. Now they're in space and there could be plenty of countermeasures to neutralize the immortals which leaves Earth virtually defenseless. However, it Pate controls Church and he's willing to be their viceroy then they'll probably let him return since he would expedite their conquest immensely.
Of course if Pate does turn on the Praeses I could see things going down a little something like this: //www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4GaPcLgOs
Thrudd:
It would be funny if after all is said and done that the Praeses just wanted Alice and Sedna as gardeners and give each a tray of saplings to take back home to start groves of Earthian Praese .
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WareWolf:
--- Quote from: Kugai on 19 Feb 2017, 21:47 ---OMG!!!
IT'S A JURAIAN TREE SHIP!!!!!
Meah!! :-D
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Or one of the Templar Treeships from Dan Simmons' "Hyperion".
derech:
Unless, whatever whoever the Praeses is are, they don't actually have any plans. No changing or invading Earth, no capturing its more powerful denizens, perhaps nothing in particular to begin with. Or maybe the entity thing that captured and used Gavia is a or the end target for something or another (or they its target). ?
If the Praeses are distinct and sentient and have goals, those goals might not be anything a human would understand or want. If so, humans identifying happenings might not get it in other than terms they understand them. Alice was rather vague, perhaps even paranoid about things, and wasn't all that specific about it either. Whatever that is, whatever she thinks about the Praeses, might not actually be correct .
Either way, it would seem the odds are, whatever the truth about plans or not, that they are not worried about anyone (or all) in the spacecraft. Or something like that what they're worried about is not exactly what people would be concerned with or necessarily contextualize properly.
OldGoat:
--- Quote from: derech on 21 Feb 2017, 11:51 ---Gavia's look is somewhat confusing, maybe she's never been outside looking in though. Ardent seems happy, to see it and that his command worked (with another teleport?). Sedna is surprised with a sort of wonder, maybe the simple life is too familiar after so long. And, Pate's nearly terrified. He seems to rather keep demonstrating how little he actually knows in detail about anything, his information sources incomplete and lacking, not plain, clear and illustrative.
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This. Pate realizes that he's bit off 'way more than he can chew, and even Church doesn't have the chops to help him gnaw through it.
Ardent was Pate bait.
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