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Alice Grove MCDLT - March 2017

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BenRG:

--- Quote from: brasca on 18 Mar 2017, 20:20 ---Regardless of who is behind it what happens next is far more critical.  The pressure suits seem to be keeping Ardent and Pate alive, but they can't live in the vacuum of space indefinitely and considering the direction they are going with the Earth in the background everyone except the immortals will burn up on reentry if something doesn't block them.  As for Gavia I'm not sure if she's even still wearing her pressure suit and may not need it if she can conjure up fire like that.
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Trust me, they'd suffocate long before their orbit decayed enough for them to reach the top of the denser atmospheric layers. The destruction of the ship will have maybe knocked a few miles off of their perigee at worst. They're still orbiting at around 22,000 miles altitude and that orbit won't change in less than a century unless one of them has a high-efficiency long life propulsion system stashed away on their persons.

Samik:
Agreed with BenRG that there's no way the explosion imparted enough delta-v on them to meaningfully alter their orbit.


I came to link this, and only in doing so noticed that I wrote it exactly a year ago today:


--- Quote from: Samik ---One more thing that came through very clearly on my re-read: although occasionally childlike/naive/impulsive, Gavia is extremely intelligent and observant. I do not think that she's going to simply be a victim/witness - she'll have some major role to play in how this all turns out, before all is said and done.
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(Now, it didn't occur to me until reading the thread that Nightwalker or other outside influence may be a factor here.)

Sorflakne:
Well, that was an unexpected turn.

ConmanTheBarbarian:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 19 Mar 2017, 01:11 ---Trust me, they'd suffocate long before their orbit decayed enough for them to reach the top of the denser atmospheric layers. The destruction of the ship will have maybe knocked a few miles off of their perigee at worst.

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Agreed (unless the magic bubble suits can keep them alive for years, and this is LEO)

--- Quote from: BenRG on 19 Mar 2017, 01:11 --- They're still orbiting at around 22,000 miles altitude and that orbit won't change in less than a century unless one of them has a high-efficiency long life propulsion system stashed away on their persons.

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I don't think we have ever been told the praeses are in geosynch orbit. You get a lot less radiation if you stay below the Van Allen belts...

asr:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 18 Mar 2017, 15:26 ---"Oh no! It can't possibly be Gavia" they all said! :wink:

Firstly, I just love the way that Sedna is putting Ardent's 'elegant tail' to unexpected use as an emergency tow rope. I also wonder if Alice will need to punch out Gavia's lights before she compromises her pressure suit. However, most of all, I'm wondering if Gavia is 100% in control of what is happening or whether she's been the Night Walker's meat puppet since the moment it grabbed her in Sedna's house!

Is Pate the target here or is it the Praeses?

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I've thought that this whole thing has been set up by the Praeses, who want/need Alice and Sedna (and possibly even Church) in orbit with them.  Did you think it was a coincidence that Alice and friends got to the archaeophile community just after they had uncovered a bunker that just happened to have a launch vehicle?

The Praeses sent Ardent down with his midas touch to force Alice into action and to give her a way to get off-planet in spite of the technology decay, and they sent Gavia down with a nanotech payload that would provoke the Night Walker into doing whatever it did. Between Ardent's touch, Gavia's temper, and both of them being annoying idiots, there was no way that Alice could do nothing. And having been passive for so long, she would need the help of someone who would know where to get access to a transformable way into orbit, hence Sedna. Finally, Pate, being a sociopath, would not be able to resist the temptation to take control of the situation, and would bring Church with him.

The Praeses then needed a way to get Alice and friends out of the spaceship and into/onto the tree, so they re-enabled Gavia's nanotech and provoked her.

And now we're slowly going to find out what task they have in mind for Alice and her motley crew...

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