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Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2017

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pwhodges:
He's thrown her through the wall (see how clumsily she is landing) into a space (inside the tree? - the curvy lines suggest that to me) where she is constrained so that he can brutalise her without her getting away.  As he follows her in through the hole you see the stars outside behind him.

brasca:

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--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 30 Apr 2017, 09:49 ---The the other are watching this and seeing Alice getting crushed. I'm thinking the next comic is going to be something like Sedna holding Pate by the neck and telling him to order Church to stand down or else.

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Could be Sedna, Gavia, Pate, or even Ardent, presuming that's Gavia's force bubble that's covering them.  I suppose it could be whatever or whoever serves  the Orbitals as a police force arriving, too.  Since they appear to have breached the Praeses' trunk or whatever, someone from Damage Control is bound to be arriving presently.

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I think everyone in the bubble is too far away to see what's going on at this point.  Never mind the scifi magic that would allow their voice to project that far. 


--- Quote from: jheartney on 30 Apr 2017, 13:40 ---
--- Quote from: Method of Madness on 30 Apr 2017, 11:45 ---Look at his face. He's enjoying himself. I'd say it's less an error and more him prolonging things just a bit because he hasn't had this much fun in five thousand years.

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That's not the error. The error is that in last week's comic, Church was already face to face with Alice (and presumably would have been holding her to prevent escape). In this week's comic, suddenly she has moved away from him, and he has to burst through some green stuff to get to her. How did that happen? What's the green stuff? Why (from a story point of view) bother with this temporary escape?

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It's difficult to discern, but in panel 2 I see Church blasting Alice so hard she burst through the trunk or bark of the space habitat and in the third panel he flies through the hole he's made to begin crushing her skull in panel 4 and 5.  Now I'm noticing some curvature in the 6th panel as if Pate is now inside a bubble.  I doubt Gavia could've arrived in time to erect a force field around him nor do I think she's suicidal .  I think the Praeses will be intervening soon. 

jheartney:

--- Quote from: brasca on 30 Apr 2017, 14:44 ---It's difficult to discern, but in panel 2 I see Church blasting Alice so hard she burst through the trunk or bark of the space habitat and in the third panel he flies through the hole he's made to begin crushing her skull in panel 4 and 5.  Now I'm noticing some curvature in the 6th panel as if Pate is now inside a bubble.  I doubt Gavia could've arrived in time to erect a force field around him nor do I think she's suicidal .  I think the Praeses will be intervening soon.

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Ah, now I see. The white shape in panel 2 is Alice hurled through the outside of something and hitting the opposite inside wall; I'd thought it was just a bang of Church bursting through the green material.

5000 years in solidified magma hasn't done anything good for his temper. Still, if he's that powerful, why did he take millennia to break out of some rocks?

blt:

--- Quote from: jheartney on 30 Apr 2017, 15:02 ---
--- Quote from: brasca on 30 Apr 2017, 14:44 ---It's difficult to discern, but in panel 2 I see Church blasting Alice so hard she burst through the trunk or bark of the space habitat and in the third panel he flies through the hole he's made to begin crushing her skull in panel 4 and 5.  Now I'm noticing some curvature in the 6th panel as if Pate is now inside a bubble.  I doubt Gavia could've arrived in time to erect a force field around him nor do I think she's suicidal .  I think the Praeses will be intervening soon.

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Ah, now I see. The white shape in panel 2 is Alice hurled through the outside of something and hitting the opposite inside wall; I'd thought it was just a bang of Church bursting through the green material.

5000 years in solidified magma hasn't done anything good for his temper. Still, if he's that powerful, why did he take millennia to break out of some rocks?

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If he's encased well enough, could be he couldn't move his limbs around to get enough speed to break through the rock.  Fast forward into the future and digging (or an earthquake even) gives him enough freedom to break himself loose.

TheEvilDog:

--- Quote from: jheartney on 30 Apr 2017, 15:02 ---5000 years in solidified magma hasn't done anything good for his temper. Still, if he's that powerful, why did he take millennia to break out of some rocks?

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We don't that much about the super soldiers of Alice Grove; their capabilities, their limitations, or what they even truly are. Are they humans that have been enhanced or upgraded? Were they manufactured in a lab?

With that in mind, it might be a case that when Alice imprisoned Church, the molten rock served as a prison for him, one that is extremely difficult and time laborious to break out from. That's not even getting into the composition of the stone (volcanic stone can be as fragile as glass or at the other end of the scale, stronger than steel). It might have taken Church centuries, if not a couple of millennia to break out.

Think of it like this, a variant of immurement was to bury someone up their neck in sand and leave them to die. Generally considered to be a horrific way to go. But if left unattended, one could escape. It involves moving the fingers back and forth and then the arms. The idea is that you are compacting the sand in such a way that you make more room to get out. Which is probably what Church did. Unless Church has a vibrate setting to break the stone.

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