Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - April 2017
Skewbrow:
An interesting flashback. Interesting theories proposed here (close to the mark, likely).
* My guess is that Alice's line in the second panel is "Hasta la vista, baby" in supersoldier speak.
* After spending a couple of millennia immersed in rock it is somewhat understandable that Church might hold a grudge. Particularly if the pain in the diodes on the right side won't go away.
retrosteve:
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 17 Apr 2017, 00:32 ---She suggested that she could turn rock into lava when threatening Sedna. It's unclear how much that was empty bluster.
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I'd love to interpret this flashback as "Alice calls down airstrike and buries Church in lava" but it really doesn't look that way to me. I've seen Jeph's action scenes before and they're never this static. Look at each frame. Nobody is moving in any of them.
If Alice and Church have been fighting, why is Church just kneeling there, standing still, while Alice looks on from a distance, doing nothing? That's not how mortal combat looks.
When he has his hand on his heart, is he having a heart attack? Too exhausted to continue? Clicking a chest-mounted communicator?
When the beam comes down, did she do it or did he? If she did it, why doesn't he move or dodge, at least a bit?
Her floating above him in a lava background looks really weird and explains absolutely nothing.
I have more confidence in Jeph's visual storytelling and body language drawing than this. He is not showing any kind of battle. Their peculiar lack of motion says this is something else. A ritual? An agreed-upon conclusion? A submission? It could be any of those, but not the end of a hostile battle.
BenRG:
FWIW, I think that this strip is a flashback from Sedna's POV and she's about to give Gavia a very useful suggestion.
Neko_Ali:
This scene could explain why Church has loyalty to Pate. Possibly even why he doesn't speak/has one blank eye. Church has been buried all of this time since Alice submerged him. That possibly cause some damage. They may be incredibly tough and strong, but I would imagine being entirely encased in rock for thousands of years would have some effects. There Church remained until one of Pate's archaeological teams found him. We know Pate has been funding groups like Ellie's in the hope of finding working or repairable spacecraft. So now Church serves the man who freed him from thousands of years of imprisonment, not unlike a genie.
retrosteve:
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 18 Apr 2017, 06:18 ---This scene could explain why Church has loyalty to Pate. Possibly even why he doesn't speak/has one blank eye. Church has been buried all of this time since Alice submerged him. That possibly cause some damage. They may be incredibly tough and strong, but I would imagine being entirely encased in rock for thousands of years would have some effects.
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Especially psychological effects. I think that one eye is his crazy eye.
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