Comic Discussion > QUESTIONABLE CONTENT
WCDT Strips 3461-3465 (17-21 April 2017)
BenRG:
It occurs to me that the most obvious way for Bubbles to have communications EMP shielding (although one that loses most of the presumed communication & control advantages of an AI soldier) is to use the simplest of them all: It's hooked into her through a radio earpiece and an augmented reality monocle mounted on her helmet. Even if she has to physically listen to messages and reply verbally and also operate her AR system the same way as her biological comrades, she will still have a faster reaction time to incoming information and orders.
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: TheEvilDog on 19 Apr 2017, 09:20 ---
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 19 Apr 2017, 08:36 ---Hang on though....
How can Bubbles remember the incident... but not remember what her colleagues looked like?
Her memories are files (as has been discussed) and said files were apparently wiped?
So how can Bubbles have a selective memory of what happened without seeing the people involved in that self-same incident?
Or, indeed, memories of them prior to said incident? We can't pretend to know how AIs memories work, but we've been given a brief run down throughout the last few months... and no explanation other than them being data files has been given.
So... How?
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How is it that people can remember the sound of a loved one's voice and yet unable to remember details of their face years after they have passed?
How is that we might remember with crystal clarity an embarrassing incident from decades ago, but forget the name of the person we were introduced to last month?
How is it that people can forget some memories after trauma but other obscure ones remain intact?
Memory is a funny and complex thing and though we think them to be the same as files, they aren't. A file can be deleted and later recovered near intact. A memory can be lost and though it's not always possible for it to come back, we are still left with the imprint of that memory, an echo as it were.
Bubbles might not be able to remember the faces of her squad or their time together, but there is still the imprint and echoes of that time.
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Yeah but Bubbles memories literally ARE files, as mentioned above, and shown in the strip, cos Bubbles is a computer, not a person.
Files don't imprint on other files.
(However... if they *did* then one would imagine that imprinting might contain such things as visual recognition of Friend or Foe.. which would again entail facial recall)
We might forget memories. but (generally speaking) computer files must be physically wiped to be *forgotten* and from all we've been led to believe only this single incident was wiped by CW.
(I can't understand this "forgetting my father's voice" thing either. My Father died ten years ago. I can recall his voice as easily as I can recall my own name - but I get that might differ for others for whatever reasons)
In short (too late!)
I think trying to compare Human and AI memory systems doesn't work.
Particularly when based on the way we've been led to believe AI memories work in this particular universe.
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 19 Apr 2017, 09:44 ---Memories are not stored locally, they are diffused throughout the brain and are strongly linked to emotions. It is possible to forget the factual content of an experience while retaining the emotional impact it had. Encountering similar events/circumstances can then trigger that emotional reaction without the person knowing the precise source. Memories are weird. My own are either a jumbled, discordant mess or absent all together. A huge chunk of my past is a complete blank due to trauma. Other swaths of memory are completely disjointed, broken free of temporal context.
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See first line above.
Cheers!
ETA:
I get why people are arguing against this... But I just think it's too neat a bundle to give Bubbles some existential trauma.
She remembers everything... but not their faces.. A tragic scenario.. just ... hard for me to believe, given that she is a walking computer an ADORABLE walking computer.
And I think my belief, that Bubble has EASILY been the best written character since her introduction, is grumpy at the fact that this particular aspect of her has been handled in what seems to be a slap-dash manner.
Hey-ho.
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: snufflebottoms on 19 Apr 2017, 20:47 ---Uhh well it would be pretty easy for Bubbles to have a sexual relationship with Faye. I am not sure how Faye could reciprocate though...
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Give it her a fresh cup of really hot tea... and turn it her on!
oddtail:
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 20 Apr 2017, 02:33 ---Yeah but Bubbles memories literally ARE files, as mentioned above, and shown in the strip, cos Bubbles is a computer, not a person.
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OK, this is nitpicky, I admit, but Bubbles is a computer, not a *human*. It's established very well in QCverse that AI are actually conscious, intelligent and have individuality. They also have rights as citizens.
So Bubbles is very much a person, unambiguously so (in the legal, moral, and mental sense). A non-human person, but still.
de_la_Nae:
Beat me to it.
For what it's worth, while I'm confident Joe wasn't trying to be *that* way (no really, I get you aren't, mate), I'd argue, as someone from one of the minority groups in her culture that have a history of de-person-alization and violence, it is a little more important than 'nitpicky', oddtail.
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