Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - MAY 2017
sitnspin:
It's been heavily implied that she purposely keeps them at a low technology level to keep their civilisation sustainable. She stated as much when Ardent upgraded the water pump.
derech:
Sedna counts both the others as like her yet.... more complex. Sedna as a support class non-leader type more happy with more limited goals, with the tasks to which she was designed for more like. Perhaps this leads to explaining why she harbored some anger towards Alice. And might also explain why it's taken a while for her to self-repair (not instantly or within minutes) because she's not front-line. Which would then seem to suggest that it could be extended to the other two that they would be faster to heal and from even more extensive injuries.
As far as the differences between Alice and Church . Alice seems more refined and thoughtful, with more latitude in choices of what to do and how to do it. Less of a compulsion going along with less power and more intelligence. Is that because she's a more advanced model, or a less advanced one? Seems like more, could be less. It would appear that whichever it is, she was in a level of more responsibility/power in whatever hierarchy there might have been. Also aligned with a more stereotypical or traditional female gender-role for the form she has? Seems pretty clear he's more so some brutish testosterone type, which appears to also match stereotypical/traditional male gender-role fitting his form. Beauty and beast, thoughtful motherly type and meathead bodyguard. Sophia and Demiurge ish even.
Alice certainly appeared to not want the village to outstrip its own ability to exist. Guardian and judge. More maternal, caring but open to discipline when needed. Protecting them from themselves but mostly hands off except in matters they couldn't reasonably be expected to handle. Them aware of it to the point they jokingly call her a witch (but not 100% a joke).
Church as the bully. Won over by a less physically-imposing bully in Pate? Or even Pate as a person more matching the type of Church's victims. It's interesting that Pate didn't say yes to Sedna suggesting (accusing) he was the big meanie back home, but simply didn't disagree with it. Given his reactions since space, it appears either way to have been more of an act.
Well whatever we might say about the two regarding sex and gender in how they look and how that might lead to how they act, and their levels of power and intelligence. She appears to have disciplined him in some way for some reason, and now he was looking for might makes right.
Method of Madness:
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Welp, it's official. I was wrong.
brasca:
--- Quote from: sitnspin on 30 May 2017, 12:37 ---It's been heavily implied that she purposely keeps them at a low technology level to keep their civilisation sustainable. She stated as much when Ardent upgraded the water pump.
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Alice understands the perils of too much technological progress all at once on account of how depleted the Earth was after the catastrophic wars, but to keep her town at the level it's at in perpetuity would require among other things population control. Eventually that town would grow to a size which would require improvements to its infrastructure and smaller satellite towns and villages surrounding it, but from what we can tell Alice's town is the only settlement for miles around. How she does it if she even does remains unclear. As I previously stated she may repeatedly try to help a community until things go wrong beyond her ability to fix and she wanders over to the next settlement to begin the process again or she resorts to measures of keeping her town just the way it is which leaves her feeling constantly guilty.
Another matter that's not entirely clear is why she and Church fought all those millennia ago. There were 2 factions the AI and augmented humans. According to Alice the AIs disappeared so unless she was providing misdirection she and Church either fought for the augmented faction or the AIs also produced immortal soldiers too with similar designs and compulsions.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: brasca on 31 May 2017, 06:50 ---Another matter that's not entirely clear is why she and Church fought all those millennia ago. There were 2 factions the AI and augmented humans. According to Alice the AIs disappeared so unless she was providing misdirection she and Church either fought for the augmented faction or the AIs also produced immortal soldiers too with similar designs and compulsions.
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I still think that Church was a runaway and Alice (along with many other super-soldiers) had been sent to stop him. Maybe Church's designated commander was killed after giving him a disturbingly broadly-interpretable order like: "Kill them! Kill them all!"
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