Comic Discussion > ALICE GROVE
Alice Grove MCDLT - MAY 2017
sitnspin:
There's this verbal trick people sometimes use called "irony".
brasca:
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--- Quote from: jheartney on 14 May 2017, 15:05 ---So far these vaunted praeses have yet to actually do anything in the story other than allowing the twins to make a trip to Earth.
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Twins? I was under the impression that Gavia is the elder by a few years (or cycles, or whatever Orbitals use to mark time).
Church's expression when Ellie tried to cold-cock him was the first time we'd seen him drop his flat affect, like he was thinking, "You've crossed the line - now I can act." The appearance of his eyes seems to signal which mode he's in. Even a threat to Pate doesn't appear to release the control, whatever it is, but a threat to his own person does.
If he's programmed, Alice may be chuckling because she knows that Church's perception of the threat to himself will diminish, he'll drop back to 'droid mode, and the knife in Pate will attenuate into part of the background. At that point all Gavia has to do is prevent Pate from issuing instructions to Church and she can snooze (if she even needs to now - we don't know what effect the nanobots have on that part of her physiology).
We also know from early in the story that Ardent elected to not use nanotech. He may still be able to adopt it, especially if they can retrieve another nanopod from the wreckage of the Valkyrie.
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We don't really know much about Ardent and Gavia's ages. Being genetically augmented they could be older than Pate, but age very slowly. Gavia's upgraded nanotechnology may allow her to stay awake longer than she previously could or possibly indefinitely, but none of that may be necessary if they take Pate somewhere he can't communicate with Church. Gavia could temporarily remove the knife to sleep and Church would never know. However, that's not possible at this time since they are currently within the outer surface of the habitat. Unless there's a door they'll have to leave out the hole and try to find a docking entrance. As for Ardent I know he doesn't believe in using nanotechnology, but he might not be capable since he's not acusstomed.
Thrudd:
Just chiming in one the source of control thread;
So far everyone has put forth something psychological as a control.
Why not something a bit more material?
Like the dragons hearts used on Escaflowne or the life links used in so many anime scifi/fantasy mecha series.
Or maybe there are bits of Pate that were used to reboot our psycho-killer and the loss of Pate would mean total shutdown?
brasca:
It's a possibility, but it seems unlikely that Pate could figure out how to control an immortal super soldier since I doubt an instruction manual survived the ages and even if it did you'd need someone who could translate a 5000 year old language.
Tova:
Well, if anyone could...
--- Quote from: Pate ---Old broken machines in the ground, strange lights in the sky, the bones of ancient mega-structures across the land. What knowledge might be gained, what mysteries solved, what power attained?
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Indeed. The inclusion of Mr Church in that frame is kinda interesting.
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