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WCDT Strips 3506 to 3510 (19 June to 23 June 2017)
miados:
--- Quote from: Nepiophage on 21 Jun 2017, 13:14 ---What a lot of snowflakes you all are. In Claire's position, I would do just what she did; and in Marten's I would expect her to.
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as someone without much dating experience maybe it is just me but i would keep it in my back pocket and ask the likes of faye or hanners about it after this since I know them a lot better. I mean maybe im odd but i would pick to trust someone i knew for a while more than someone whose social interactions with me probably didn't even need a full hand to count them out.
Sullivan:
--- Quote from: think_tomorrow on 21 Jun 2017, 10:12 ---It was a little odd that 2101 was written to basically lay the blame at Marten's feet.
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It was written that way because Faye was doing most of the talking, telling Marten to not be so passive. And he was passive. Faye told him he don' wrong, and he accepted that. Faye laid the blame at Marten's feet.
truestatic:
Oh good all the gnashing of teeth was for nothing. This is a nice page. It's good to see Claire come at it from a place of concern and honesty about her own feelings, and Marten respond to that. I'm happy with this resolution.
Even if am the tiniest bit upset we didn't actually get to find out what exactly Renee's second hand info was.
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--- Quote from: think_tomorrow on 21 Jun 2017, 10:12 ---It was a little odd that 2101 was written to basically lay the blame at Marten's feet.
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It was written that way because Faye was doing most of the talking, telling Marten to not be so passive. And he was passive. Faye told him he don' wrong, and he accepted that. Faye laid the blame at Marten's feet.
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Jeph's own titling of and comments on 2099 and 2100 suggest that that's not just the characters playing their roles, Faye was calling them as Jeph saw them.
AliceGroove:
Renee's turning out to be a wholly unlikable character (which is ok - some folks are, in fact, wholly unlikable). But Claire has been so well-wrought up to this point - her strengths, her insecurities, her good and bad habits - that it's a simple shame to see an over-the-top turn for her as some stereotypical jealous female s.o. (3508) ... even with the redemptive aspects of (3509). The whole Padma thing is done and done and done... it should (imho) just have been used to accentuate Renee's dastardly image... but to see it bound-back as some sort of modest relationship hiccup for Marten and Claire is just unappealing.
Sidenote - while I like the idea of happy couplings... I couldn't be more against one than Elliot/Renee... even if the big oaf has some sublimated feelings for her. That ship won't sail, Monsignor.
comicalArchitect:
--- Quote from: Buggman on 21 Jun 2017, 15:53 ---I actually like Claire as a character, even if she is a creator's pet and her relationship with Martin is over-idealized in some respects. Having said that, a lot of my continued sympathy and respect is going to ride on what she does next.
The fact that she gave Marten the stink-eye and the "R e A l L y?" treatment after a SINGLE stranger started flapping her gums galls me to no end. It's bad enough to see Martin on the receiving end of "the man is always wrong in a relationship" trope with Padma, when in fact Padma was being just as flaky (and no fault to her--it was crappy timing that got both of them). But to see Claire of all people start playing the "jealous girlfriend" trope just to see him squirm?
No. Just no.
Marten has been completely selfless, loving, and supportive to her in a relationship that most men would find difficult to even conceive of having. He deserves FAR better from her than this rom-com BS.
Even if Claire ends up telling Renee to f*** off, if she doesn't realize what she's done wrong in today's strip and make things right with Marten, my sympathy for her as a character is going to take a massive dive. Maybe not a terminal dive, but a pretty severe hit nevertheless.
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Bolded part irks me. You don't get cookies for treating a trans woman the same way you would a cis woman. Marten is not being some special ultra-tolerant angel by dating Claire. He's just NOT being a bigoted jerk. If you would otherwise date someone but won't because they're trans, you're a transphobe.
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