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WCDT Strips 3546 to 3550 (14th to 18th August 2017)

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Emperor Norton:

--- Quote from: swapna on 17 Aug 2017, 06:36 ---I find it fascinating how much people are angry at May - yes, she's mean, but let's be honest here. She doesn't know Winslow well. If an acquaintance came and showed off at my place of work, I'd also tell them to do that somewhere else; I'm not as abrasive as May, but I think not faking happiness and telling him to leave the shop if he doesn't want to buy anything is perfectly fine. To repeat: they're not friends. They're friends of friends.
She doesn't have any obligation to congratulate him, or hide her own bitterness and disappointment. He came to her place of work, not the other way around.

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Man, I don't know, if someone came in to my work, and told me he did something because he WANTED TO BE LIKE ME, even if it required a much higher income than I had, I would not in any way think of that as showing off. He literally says that by the way. "...I wanted to be a humanoid like you and Momo and Ms. Bubbles..."

 Also, why does your level of friendship with someone have to do with treating them with any level of respect?

She KNEW he meant nothing malicious about it. She straight up said that to Momo. Do you really think it is OK to completely bite someone's head off who has shown no malicious intent, who is clearly excited about a big step in their life that they see as making them more like you, because they possess privilege you do not and because of their level of friendship?

I grew up lower middle class (and at times much lower, especially after I moved out on my own, when I lived in poverty with a wife and 2 kids), and the entire idea of snapping at someone who came from money just because they wanted to show me something nice they got is abhorrent to me, unless I suspected their motives really WERE to show that I could not have, but we know AND May knows this is not the case in this situation.

TheMadFool:

--- Quote from: Cornelius on 17 Aug 2017, 06:48 ---In all fairness, I think part of why people are angry with May, is because it's been somewhat disappointing for Winslow, so far. He's all excited, and the ones that should be able to really know what it means for him, have not responded in kind. It might be that his timing is off, I agree. But imagine, if you were to have been confined to one place, and then could suddenly go anywhere you want, what would you do?

Also, I'm not ruling out he'd just been passing by May's place of employment on the way from the library back home.

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Honestly, what bothers me most is not May's response (which is entirely in-character and believable), but other people's reaction to her response.  There seems to be a base assumption that Winslow's privilege is responsible for the situation, which isn't right.  May being a dick is responsible for this situation.  Making this be about Winslow's "privilege" smacks of victim blaming.

Oh, and Momo?  No, no it's not "fair" that May decided to vindictively chew out Winslow out of jealousy for his good fortune.  That's about as unfair as it gets.  I understand that Momo is a "let's get along" kind of person, but as a previous poster mentioned, her passivity and agreeableness is actively enabling May being a dick to Winslow, one of Momo's friends.

ProdigalDumb:
Is Hannelore rich though? Her parents are richer than god, sure, but she has a job. Even before she was a barista she had her online "counting" job, and worked as a freelance forensic accountant. She certainly has opportunities others don't, and a great safety net, but what proof is there she's rich? She lives in the same apartment Marten and Faye have been able to afford with Library Worker/Barista money - not exactly a gated community. To my knowledge she hasn't relied on her parents' wealth any more than Marten has with his own well off parents.

Beyond that - Winslow isn't a guy getting a new toy each week. It's been a while since I've read the archive, but I can't remember him asking for anything. He splurges once, doesn't get something that is top of the line, and is told to check his privilege. What's the right thing for him to do? He's an Apple product - they're known for the hardware going obsolete in a couple of years. Should he not use the opportunities he has available to him, and get the minimum hardware needed to survive? Should he go on a Ghandi-esque obsolescence strike and refuse to get any new chassis until they're free to all? Or worse, is the message that Winslow needs to only associate with those as well off as him? I've seen a lot of posts saying that what Winslow did was wrong - what was the right thing to do?

oddtail:

--- Quote from: ProdigalDumb on 17 Aug 2017, 07:24 ---I've seen a lot of posts saying that what Winslow did was wrong - what was the right thing to do?

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I think what people are objecting to is that Winslow showed off his new chassis in a way that may come off as bragging, even if he didn't intend it that way.

The correct way to go would have been to only casually, informatively tell people that it's his new body, without gushing so much (at least, not to everyone and not without testing the waters a bit). In his excitement, Winslow didn't think who he was talking to and didn't think about their problems. It's a bit like being super chipper about your new car when talking to a person who's currently so short on cash, they have to save up to get through the month. It's not EVIL maybe, but can test people's patience.

Emperor Norton:
Hannelore noted when she got the job that she didn't actually need it financially, but only wanted it to try to become more normal. I have the feeling that while yes she has done what she could to make her own way, with the counting/forensic accounting, that she does not really want for anything. Because let's be honest, she straight up says she can afford the chasis and that isn't something a barista pay would probably allow, she has more money than that.

(Also there is a difference between Marten's parents level of well off (which I assume to be very well off, but not "I can buy anything without thinking about it") and Hannelore's. A giant gulf. Kids of the ultra rich are not generally surviving all on their own.)

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