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WCDT Strips 3546 to 3550 (14th to 18th August 2017)
Mr. Doctor:
^^ That is the same problem I have with the concept in general. It's a great thing to understand and use your privileges for the greater good... But when people use it as a means to attack you in an argument where it's uncalled for then I just won't bother anymore (like with May here).
Cornelius:
--- Quote from: Mr. Doctor on 18 Aug 2017, 01:25 ---^^ That is the same problem I have with the concept in general. It's a great thing to understand and use your privileges for the greater good... But when people use it as a means to attack you in an argument where it's uncalled for then I just won't bother anymore (like with May here).
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What's more, when people do attack you for your privilege, it is most often for the privilege they think you have. It's very much about perception. And once the argument has been used, there's no longer a possibility to have a rational, reasonable discussion. When privilege is invoked in an argument, mostly it means that the opinion of the "privileged" person will from thenceforth be ignored as irrelevant and hurtful. And that is a problem.
Shjade:
--- Quote from: Cornelius on 18 Aug 2017, 01:32 ---And once the argument has been used, there's no longer a possibility to have a rational, reasonable discussion. When privilege is invoked in an argument, mostly it means that the opinion of the "privileged" person will from thenceforth be ignored as irrelevant and hurtful. And that is a problem.
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That's not how this works.
If you can't have a reasonable discussion with someone, it's because of the person, not the concept of privilege.
If you can't have a reasonable discussion with anyone who brings up privilege, guess who's the common denominator there?
Cornelius:
--- Quote from: Shjade on 18 Aug 2017, 02:15 ---
--- Quote from: Cornelius on 18 Aug 2017, 01:32 ---And once the argument has been used, there's no longer a possibility to have a rational, reasonable discussion. When privilege is invoked in an argument, mostly it means that the opinion of the "privileged" person will from thenceforth be ignored as irrelevant and hurtful. And that is a problem.
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That's not how this works.
If you can't have a reasonable discussion with someone, it's because of the person, not the concept of privilege.
If you can't have a reasonable discussion with anyone who brings up privilege, guess who's the common denominator there?
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Fair enough. I should have made clear that it is not anyone. However, a majority of those who did, in my experience, did use it just to invalidate your opinion. In practice, it is often used as just an ad hominem argument.
neurocase:
Yeah, the whole concept of "you belong to {x} social/racial/sexual/age range/pay scale group, so you have ALL THIS PRIVILEGE" is by and large a completely bullshit concept. Not least of all because it's very rarely true, but because the people who point the finger and cry PRIVILEGE feel totally justified in a lack of personal responsibility because it's the fault system and all these terrible privileged people walking around. Anecdotal, but a lot of the people I've met and known who are quick to pull the trigger on calling others privileged are often in negative social/economic/financial situations that they actually could fix themselves, but thanks to the popularity of the Oppression Olympics that seems to be everywhere online these days, they feel completely absolved of any personal mistakes or wrongdoing that might have put them there, because they can instead lay blame everywhere else.
Yes, the US prison system is absolute crap, and prisoner rehabilitation is practically non-existent. Does May deserve to be in a falling apart lemon of a chassis and working a dead end job? Not really. Did she put herself there? Yes, absolutely. She consciously chose to commit a crime in pursuit of her own ends. Any loss of "privilege" she's suffered compared to Winslow is entirely by her own hand. That's not bias, that's not "criminalizing" her. That's a straight up fact. The prison system is a wreck, but May is still the one who put herself there. If she was wrongfully accused/imprisoned, fine. But there's a far cry between a simple mistake, and willful subversion of the law for personal gain.
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