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miados:
I just notice doing a reread that right before momo gets her full body chasis that she actually tells us her age, allbiet in seconds (ill link below) 85147200 to be exact. it lets us know that she is 2.7 years old. I know she isn't young to us but it got me to thinking with how things are going with winslow how old are the pcs we have gotten to know. To me winslow always felt more like a kid and momo as a young to middle teenager for some reason while pintsize seemed like a highschool/college age frat boy.

Do we actually know more of their ages? I dunno just something i noticed that we have a form of verifying how old they can be. Also how they mature etc compared to humans. do you think the body they are in has an impact? i know the experiences they have would. i mean winslow didn't have much in his life. heck he couldnt even stand up without help if he fell over, momo had a wear eel thing, we know may has been in jail for a while and bubbles had military service and pintsize well...... anyway for some reason seeing that made me wonder age vs maturity like in one justice league episode where they have a similar discussion about actual age versus maturity and mental age.

any thoughts?

http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1995

BenRG:
There is a disconnect between age and mental/emotional maturity. In the strip where May is looking for a job, one of the application forms specifies an AI-specific mental maturity measure (something about what level of a Turing test they could past). So, yeah, chronological age probably has very little to do with an AI's actual perceptible ability to 'do adult'.

Of course, run time will almost certainly affect developmental levels but it probably is a very compressed scale compared to humans. It also is not always at the same rate. I suspect that Pintsize and Bubbles are probably around the same age; now compare their levels of mental and emotional maturity. It's kind of weird how much they are like humans: Just being the same age does not guarantee whether they've grown up!

Another thought: Station once told Marten that teenage Hannelore had named some of the Ellicott-Chatham AIs involved in the space program (and that she wasn't that creative when it came to the names). This means that we can start establishing a baseline of maximum ages. IMO, I don't think any of the AIs are older than six to ten years and most of the AIs we are familiar with are probably no older than three years.

Cornelius:

--- Quote from: BenRG on 17 Aug 2017, 04:02 ---Of course, run time will almost certainly affect developmental levels but it probably is a very compressed scale compared to humans. It also is not always at the same rate. I suspect that Pintsize and Bubbles are probably around the same age; now compare their levels of mental and emotional maturity. It's kind of weird how much they are like humans: Just being the same age does not guarantee whether they've grown up!

--- End quote ---

I'm not sure run time is a very good indication. I should think it very much depends on the efficiency, and the kind, of processes they have running. If an AI with limited resources is investing most of its resources to just maintaining its conscience, that doesn't seem to leave much room for improvement.

I thought you were making a very good point of Pintsize and Bubbles being the same age, as Bubbles did claim that the program that produced her chassis ran parallel to the one that produced Pintsize's. There's two problems, though; being that Pintsize's current chassis is a replacement of his original one, and that Bubbles volunteered to serve, implying that she had been conscious before that.

An important point might be that the first true AI, according to the book Momo was reading on the subject, asked for civic rights, and perhaps a glass of champagne, on the very evening its consciousness was confirmed. That seems to indicate a high level of maturity out of the box, so to speak. Of course, we cannot know how, exactly, that AI had been developed, and where the threshold for the researchers to claim consciousness lay.

Is it cold in here?:
On top of the variables already mentioned it seems likely that there's already some difference in maturity levels when they leave the VR crèche.

miados:
I think this is mostly something for companion ai types. I am unsure if you will see a large amount of change in say a toaster ai who is happy being one and wants to stay one forever. At least in the sense where they need to worry about social and economic things.

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