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WCDT Strips 3551 to 3555 (21st to 25th August 2017)
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: oeoek on 23 Aug 2017, 01:12 ---(new comic, nr 3553) Way to go Hanners! And I think this is the right way; May is still learning how to deal with things, mostly by Momo, but now from others as well. Her rather baffled look shows she never thought about that.
And uhm, is it just me or do I detect a hint of release the virus in Hanners eyes?
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It is not just you! That could have been mere earnestness but I thought I saw claws coming out. It would be in character. Remember what has been in common among all the occasions when Hannelore has turned into She-Hulk?
I wonder how much Winslow has helped Hannelore. She was in pretty bad shape despite having him for a companion, and she should have responded very well to having an AI friend given her childhood.
Welcome SotFX!
Tova:
Something I just thought of. It's interesting that May's very first words to Hanners were to apologise for yelling at Winslow, but it hadn't occurred to her that perhaps Winslow is the one she should be apologising to.
castn:
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 23 Aug 2017, 15:15 ---Your level of friendship with someone should not be a requirement for you to treat them with the same respect you wish to be treated. There are ways to get people to understand their privilege that do not require attacking them. If you get hurt, and lash out and attack someone, you should probably apologize, whether you want to be friends with the person or not. Because they are a human being and if you want people to be treated with respect, you should do the same.
Either it was the wrong thing to do, and you need to apologize, or it was the right thing to do, and you owe no apology. Your friendship level or desired friendship level with the person does not enter into the equation. Doing otherwise is saying that you aren't apologizing because you hurt them, but because you want something from them (their friendship).
EDIT: This is specifically addressing a well-meaning person being thoughtless. Be as rude as you want to Nazis, they are actively making the choice to be shitty.
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I don't think May being mean/rude to Winslow is an "attack", which is a word I would reserve for something much more serious than being rudely called out on your ignorance. We have to agree to disagree on the point, because I do inherently believe that wanting a friendship causes us to make exceptions to the default manner with which we otherwise treat strangers or acquaintances (and that there's nothing morally wrong with the default being 'rude'). But I'm not saying May won't find it better for her well-being to embrace these exceptions. It's just healthier to be nice to people, sometimes, especially when they mean well.
--- Quote from: Tova on 23 Aug 2017, 16:27 ---Something I just thought of. It's interesting that May's very first words to Hanners were to apologise for yelling at Winslow, but it hadn't occurred to her that perhaps Winslow is the one she should be apologising to.
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I think it's interesting that her phrasing makes Winslow sound like a friend of a friend - sorry for yelling at your friend. Maybe May didn't realise that Winslow considers her a proper friend until this interaction with Hanners?
Shjade:
--- Quote from: Tova on 23 Aug 2017, 16:27 ---Something I just thought of. It's interesting that May's very first words to Hanners were to apologise for yelling at Winslow, but it hadn't occurred to her that perhaps Winslow is the one she should be apologising to.
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It would seem to suggest she's apologizing not so much for yelling at Winslow - either feeling justified about that, or that it shouldn't have caused enough harm to merit apologizing for it - but for potentially upsetting Hannelore indirectly as a result. Whether or not she considers Winslow a friend, as in castn's interpretation above, it seems like she's expecting the real harm to have been to Hannelore and her well-known sensitivity rather than Winslow. Which, accurate or not, I could see as a plausible interpretation of events, particularly to someone who isn't intimately familiar with either of them.
Either way, though, it's a clear indicator of May's general awareness/empathy. She might act like she doesn't give a shit about anyone else's feelings more than is in fact true of her state of mind. (Or, just as likely if not moreso, acts without thinking a lot of the time, like she has issues with- Oh, right.)
Emperor Norton:
How is the default manner you treat people being rude not messed up?
How can we want anyone to care about our struggles, how can we demand people care about anyone who isn't like them when we don't care enough about anyone who isn't in our friend bubble to treat them with respect?
You talk about calling people on their privilege, but why should they care how it impacts you if you clearly don't care how what you do impacts them?B
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