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WCDT Strips 3551 to 3555 (21st to 25th August 2017)
Strawberrycocoa:
--- Quote from: ChipNoir on 20 Aug 2017, 23:13 ---May has her good qualities, and for some that may not be enough to out weight what she did to him, but Winslow, however childish he seems to be, is still capable of making his own choices. If he sees something of value in May, then so be it.
The people that want to get up in arms and act like Winslow should shun May from now on for one outburst, well, I have choice words about that kind of sensitivity. And before anyone throws around the word "Toxic" I advise you remember that everyone is an ass once in a while, and this is May's first (and maybe last) time being so to Winslow. I'd argue that we've seen most of the cast of QC put each other threw far, far worse outbursts, and they all have far more loving relationships than the bare acquaintance between these two.
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For whatever it may be worth to the conversation, I overall LIKE May as a character and as a person, and this arc hasn't really changed that. I just find her reaction to the whole situation... well, self-absorbed and shitty.
I know several people (Person A) who have that same reaction when others (Person B) act as Winslow has. Person B does something nice for themself or gets some kind of a lucky break, and Person A immediately turns snarly and vindictive because it didn't happen to THEM. Then they act like everyone ELSE should keep Person A at the forefront of their mind when living their own lives, and ,measure all their actions against how Person A feels. They act like the whole world is constantly working to insult or slight them and you have to tiptoe around their fragile little egos to keep any peace in your life.
So, I dunno, personal experience clouding my perception I guess, but May's behavior during the incident resonates with me as being the same reaction of a lot of petty passive-aggressive and generally unpleasant people I've had in my life, and it angers me to see that behavior come from a character I've enjoyed following to this point.
Emperor Norton:
--- Quote from: Case on 21 Aug 2017, 09:40 ---
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 21 Aug 2017, 07:45 ---You do know that responding with these images seems very condescending, right?
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I usually add a quote when I want a specific forumite to know that my response is about their post(s) - so, e.g. if Cornelius feels condescended to due to the Yoda-pic (I hope not), I'd like to know.
I thought the line of his that I quoted to be a fine conclusion -> hence the Yoda.
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I'm not offended, but a lot of times with the gifs and image responses it feels like "Your thoughts on this aren't even worth addressing." or "Look at how I can make fun of people by saying I'm above whatever it is they are talking about."
I'm not saying that you are intending either of those things, but it can very much look that way.
I dropped the discussion in the other thread cause they made a good point that, until we had further information from the comic to discuss, there was very little new to say. Now that we have a new comic that addresses EXACTLY what I was discussing, there was something new to say.
And I said it, and I was going to leave it there. I'm not sure what the point of a comic discussion thread is if discussion of the new comic isn't allowed, or only positive reactions to the comic aren't met with derision. (by this, I mean, people continuing to say to move on, which is exactly the problem that we are having, that May gets to just move on without looking at her actions, are not responded to with images saying they are beating a dead horse or going in circles, despite the fact that the denial of what we see is a problem is half of what is continuing the cycle.)
RLBell:
--- Quote from: Akima on 21 Aug 2017, 02:44 ---
--- Quote from: BenRG on 20 Aug 2017, 23:14 ---So... Are those real pigeon or is the fire in that one's eyes sign that they are something else and are the remote-control agents of someone who is watching May?
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I think it just signifies that it is filled with spicy habanero fire. I now imagine May shouting "Drakaris!" at a cloud of pigeons...
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The irony of the 3551 is that hot peppers evolved capsaicin to discourage mammals (including humans) from eating them and leaving the seeds too close to the parent tree. Birds (including pigeons) have no receptors for capsaicin, so they eat the fruit shunned by mammals and scatter the seeds far and wide. Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" would not need any changes to the birds' behaviour if each of the characters both had used riot cannisters of pepper spray.
Humans react strongly enough that some chronic pain conditions are treated by applying a local anesthetic to the affected area and then slathering the area with enough capsaicin that, after its removal and the local anesthetic wears off, that pain receptors require up to two weeks to make enough neurotransmitters to send any signal, at all. The other peripheral nerves are not affected, so the area still has sensation of stimuli besides pain.
I half suspect that May's original upbringing was less than successful and first being installed in a combat aircraft amplified her inability to perceive others as people, as most of the things she interacted with fell into the category of objects awaiting fulfillment/martyrdom that only differed in their awareness of their fate: cloned warriors only bright enough to accomplish a single task (the character of Bomb #20, in the film "Dark Star" is an example of too smart a bomb) and targets. Everything else is a source of information demanding she perform a task that they are clearly incapable of performing themselves, making them less than herself. Upon discovery that her interactions with the wider world were not obviously monitored and her own choice (provided she did not fulfill/martyr anything in the process), she was just her normal amoral self and accomplished her missions with as little regard to what to others as she had for the martyrs. As a combat aircraft, she needed to assume that, at least in situations that would prevent the success of a mission, nasty consequences of her actions would only matter in the after action report, not during planning. As she demonstrated in the half-way house that she could perceive others as persons like herself, she won her parole. She is in a humanoid chassis to force upon her the perspective that other persons are as people as she is.
brasca:
I half expect someone to start lecturing May about feeding spicy junk food to pigeons. Normally, I'd find that tiresome, but with May it would be poetic justice.
miados:
--- Quote from: brasca on 21 Aug 2017, 11:23 ---I half expect someone to start lecturing May about feeding spicy junk food to pigeons. Normally, I'd find that tiresome, but with May it would be poetic justice.
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for some reason i remember that birds dont taste spicey stuff like we do. I could be wrong but i feel like i remember learning that.
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