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Relationships You Wanna See More Of
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: hedgie on 27 Jan 2018, 01:28 ---I'm *not* one of those people who would look at a missing appendage on the inside and say "ooh, cool".
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When they were putting a stent in after my heart attack, I was conscious and watching the X-ray as they guided the catheter into place. They even asked me to move to make it easier. I suppose it was rather cool, in its way, though I'd rather not have had the heart attack at all.
Zebediah:
Not going to go into details about my first colonoscopy except to say that I was conscious, but sedated enough that watching it on the monitor didn’t freak me out.
I declined to watch my wife’s C-section because I knew I wouldn’t be able to handle it. I was there with her, but above the curtain rather than below it.
So, veering back in the general direction of the topic: I still want to see Roko interact with Spookybot. Ms. Law-and-Order teams up with I-am-above-the-law? Plenty of interesting possibilities there.
Vaygr:
--- Quote from: Jeemy on 26 Jan 2018, 08:28 ---
--- Quote from: Vaygr on 26 Jan 2018, 08:22 ---I always wanted Marten and Hanners to be a thing, but that's not likely, hah.
All the trans, gay, etc relationships are getting silly to me, though. Now Bubbles and Faye are gonna be a thing? Real. But I guess that's because they do nothing for me. I lose out on lots of cute, romantic stuff due to being indifferent about that kind of stuff. I suck.
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So what are you saying? Not to put words into your mouth, but is it that the proposed relationships upcoming in the comic are, or seem to be, all forced to be non-standard, that it makes you less interested?
I think it makes it quite realistic; that they all are. Maybe that's what QC is about. Doesn't seem like it always was. I am fairly unenlightened AFAIK; over here about 1/1000 relationships are non-heterosexual.
Seems like in US its more like 50/50 or more?
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Oh, uh. It just seems very forced. That basically everyone in their surrounding is non-hetero. It's just silly to me, especially since they're not particularly seeking out such individuals. Trans, gay, etc make up a reaaaaaaaaaally tiny number of humanity, and to have them all orbit together like this without searching for just that kind of people is seems weird.
but after all, it's a web-series, not the real world. I wish non-hetero romance did something for me, but alas my brain is stupid and boring.
Case:
--- Quote from: Vaygr on 27 Jan 2018, 08:55 ---
--- Quote from: Jeemy on 26 Jan 2018, 08:28 ---So what are you saying? Not to put words into your mouth, but is it that the proposed relationships upcoming in the comic are, or seem to be, all forced to be non-standard, that it makes you less interested?
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Oh, uh. It just seems very forced ... I wish non-hetero romance did something for me, but alas my brain is stupid and boring.
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Well, that seems like a 'yes'? There's no accounting for taste, as they say, but that's not the way it works for me - Romance is romance, it's not like just because gay lovers are gay that my brain says "Oh! Gay stuff - not for us, Case" . Love is human emotion - I am a human, so it's also for me.
--- Quote from: Vaygr on 27 Jan 2018, 08:55 ---...
Oh, uh. It just seems very forced. That basically everyone in their surrounding is non-hetero. It's just silly to me, especially since they're not particularly seeking out such individuals. Trans, gay, etc make up a reaaaaaaaaaally tiny number of humanity, and to have them all orbit together like this without searching for just that kind of people is seems weird.
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There were two posts by pwhodges responding to that post of yours, specifically regarding the size of the fraction of humanity that is non-hetero, and comparing that with QCverse - did you bother reading them? Or the linked article?
In QCverse:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 26 Jan 2018, 09:29 ---
--- Quote from: Vaygr on 26 Jan 2018, 08:22 ---All the trans, gay, etc relationships are getting silly to me, though.
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In fourteen years of the comic, we have one gay relationship in the main cast (Dora/Tai), plus two in peripheral characters (Marten's dad, Faye's sister); and of those, we see little of Dora and Tai at present. Plus one (just one) trans character/relationship. Not a lot to write home about [...] So, a focus on certain types of people specifically, but not a silly amount; or if you're saying the relationships themselves are silly, you can expect people around here to try to educate you a bit.
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And in the real world (From the article linked in pwhodges post):
--- Quote ---93.5% of people said they were 'heterosexual' or 'straight', just 1.1% said they were 'gay' or 'lesbian' and 0.4% said they were bisexual. The small fraction that was left either refused to answer or said they didn't know. Altogether, amounts to about 545,000 homosexual and 220,000 bisexual adults in the UK.
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6.5% of people report being non-hetero - that's 1 in 15. At least one in every class in school you attended, one in every bar you've been in ... that's not tiny. It's certainly several times the size of the fraction of people making a living from music, e.g. (or physics, or the Oil Industry ... take any job). I don't see a basis for a claim that Jeph is 'forcing' anything based on the numbers we have.
P.S.: Are you maybe confusing gender and sexual orientation? People can be cisgendered or transgendered (counting the nonbinary as trans for the moment, hope that's OK with everyone), and both cis- and transgendered people can also furthermore be straight, gay, bi or ACE (sexual orientation). Like all of us can be right-, or left-handed and also have blue, or green, or brown eyes - it's not "right-handed, blue-eyed people plus all the rest", not even in countries where the "right-handed and blue-eyed" folk are a plurality, or even majority . Gender is a part of your identity, sexual orientation is who you are attracted to (well, that's also part of your identity in a way, but ... know what I'm sayin'?). So Marten and Claire are both straight - Claire is not "a gay and trans man", she is a straight transwoman. There are also gay transwomen - people assigned male at birth, who are sexually attracted to women, and nonetheless their gender identity is female and they want to live as women.
P.P.S.: Steven and Tortura otoh don't trigger your suspension of disbelief? Two secret-agent characters in one extended social circle of 30+ people? I guess the CIA or MI5 wish they had that kind of staff numbers ... :lol:
Zebediah:
Have you ever been to Northampton? I live there. We are the lesbian capital of North America. And we have no shortage of other kinds of LGBT folks either. I don’t find the representation in QC to be strange at all.
Edit: this was directed at Vaygr, in case that wasn’t clear.
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