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WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)

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Ghanima Atreides:
A lot of bi people have a preference for one gender or another, actually. :) It's not always a 50/50 deal. (If that's what you were referring to.)

Case:

--- Quote from: Ghanima Atreides on 05 Nov 2017, 12:22 ---A lot of bi people have a preference for one gender or another, actually. :) It's not always a 50/50 deal. (If that's what you were referring to.)

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No, I meant that if everybody except for the Kinsey 0s and 6s were bi, shouldn't there be a lot more people who openly identify & live as 'bi'? Your number on the K-scale is one thing, how you live and what you identify as is another is what I meant? (obviously the terms overlap, but are they identical?)

BenRG:
I imagine that at K1 the attraction to same-sex is fairly rare and easy to rationalise away unless the person is particularly receptive to the idea or the attraction to that person is so overwhelming that it cannot be ignored or misunderstood.

Mr_Rose:

--- Quote from: Case on 05 Nov 2017, 12:47 ---
--- Quote from: Ghanima Atreides on 05 Nov 2017, 12:22 ---A lot of bi people have a preference for one gender or another, actually. :) It's not always a 50/50 deal. (If that's what you were referring to.)

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No, I meant that if everybody except for the Kinsey 0s and 6s were bi, shouldn't there be a lot more people who openly identify & live as 'bi'? Your number on the K-scale is one thing, how you live and what you identify as is another is what I meant? (obviously the terms overlap, but are they identical?)


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It’s called “bi erasure” — bisexual people don’t exist and if they do they’re weird freaks who can’t achieve fidelity because they would still be attracted to the other gender (the one their partner doesn’t have) and so be inspired to cheat relentlessly.
Or, that’s how they are commonly portrayed in media (when they are at all), so most bisexual people either ignore half of their preference or deliberately don’t express themselves as such when they are looking for a partner.
The worst part is that publicly bisexual people regularly get harassment and abuse from both “straight” and “gay” individuals and groups, because they “won’t pick a side” are “secretly gay|straight and pretending” and worse which I will not repeat here.

Welu:
Sometimes people don't know they experience attraction for a particular gender. I've read a bunch of anecdotal stuff about how a lot of bi and pan women didn't realise their finding other women aesthetically pleasing was attraction for a long time, due to the different socialisation of girls and boys. It's much more acceptable for women to compliment each other than it is for men, without people thinking there's something sexual or romantic to it. I've heard a lot of stories about women saying they confused liking a woman's body shape or outfit for wanting to be like them when they really wanted to be with them.

Women also are given more leeway socially for experimentation which can lead to, "I'm a straight woman who sometimes gets romantic or sexual with other women." Not that anyone is obligated to identify a certain way due to their experiences.

Plus regardless of gender, a lot of people think being bi or pan is just a step on the way to realising you're gay. Especially for men who get a lot of judgement for experimenting and exploring their sexuality. There's a lot of pressure to know who you are and have that identity be rigid. Experimenting and exploration, if done at all, is supposed to be something done when you're young and if you don't get that chance, you might never discover that part of yourself or feel safe or comfortable enough to do so. Even though getting to know yourself is a lifelong process.

Identifying as bi or pan isn't as simple as, "Oh, I've been interested in more than one gender at some point. Guess I'm [identity]."

The Kinsey scale is widely referenced but it's very based in the gender binary, which can complicate and confuse things even more.

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