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WCDT Strips 3601-3605 (30rd October - 3rd November 2017)
Tova:
Dare I hope the comic will tackle the central conflict set up way back in comics 1-3?
Probably easier to flick back to the Faye/Bubbles storyline.
MrNumbers:
I'm overanalyzing authorial intent, obviously, but "Whiny Baby" "Marten is kind of a fuckboi sometimes" and "Marten..." being the author comments for it really, really rubs me the exact wrong way.
Marten is a super chill character because where others see a rut, Marten has dug a trench. He can be a really solid place of emotional support for others because of it, but is super bad at handling shit that would force him to overextend his position. It's largely the whole character right there.
So the conversation goes, as I interpret it; "I am feeling uncomfortable in a way I find it hard to deal with even though I acknowledge it is very silly" "Here is a mature adult way to fix it" "I am joking about my obvious shortcomings because I want comfort rather than solutions right now" then Claire gets grumpy and lets go of his arm and gets very pouty and you get those author notes.
I kind of resent calling him a fuckboy over it. You're attacking a characters' source of emotional security, and they get emotional validation from healthy sexual relationships. He's treating familial angst with romantic validation. That's... that's not being a fuckboy, or what a fuckboy is. He's not treating his anxiety by sabotaging his relationships, flirting with other women, sleeping around. He couldn't even find satisfaction in hookup sex when he was single. He's trying to find validation in his otherwise healthy, committed relationship.
I'm not disagreeing that it's a bad thing if he keeps doing it, or it keeps being a problem for him. It's also good conflict for the character! This will probably be a really enjoyable storyline and bit of character growth. I just find the author commentary extremely offputting.
TheEvilDog:
You can kind of see where Marten is coming from though.
He never had the conventional childhood. Parents divorced when he was kid because his dad realised he was gay. Mother is a world famous dominatrix and though Veronica tried to shield him from the more.... esoteric, shall we say, aspects of her career, it did leak through.
Now he's watching his mother begin to become a part of a new family and of course he's going to feel a little left out. It probably doesn't help that he's watching his mother try to be a more "normal" kind of parent than she was with him. I'm not saying Veronica was ever a bad parent, but it seems like she's taking a different tact with Sam than she did with Marten. And yeah, Marten might resent that. Especially when there hasn't been that much interaction between Jim's family and Marten, which might heighten the feelings of alienation. How many times has Jim spent time with Marten?
This definitely feels like its going to become a problem later on.
MrNumbers:
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 30 Oct 2017, 21:18 ---How many times has Jim spent time with Marten?
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What about those times he ran into him dating his ex?
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: MrNumbers on 30 Oct 2017, 21:22 ---
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 30 Oct 2017, 21:18 ---How many times has Jim spent time with Marten?
--- End quote ---
What about those times he ran into him dating his ex?
--- End quote ---
I can only imagine how that conversation might go now.
Jim: "Hey there Martenerino, how you doing there kiddo?"
Marten: "Oh fine. Did my mom send you over or were you looking to talk to my ex? Because she's over in Amherst with her girlfriend."
Jim: "....Well this has just turned awkward...."
Marten: "Just?"
(And yes, I am aware that's overly blunt for Marten, but it seems appropriate)
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