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WCDT Strips 3606 to 3610 (6th - 10th November 2017)
brasca:
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--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 09 Nov 2017, 02:31 ---I have to say, considering Hannelore's past issues, severe OCD, and general character arc, this is incredibly condescending and shitty of her mother. She's not just offering to hire a personal assistant, she's effectively forcing one on Hannelore with explicit instructions to ignore Hannelore's consent and autonomy in the situation. When considering that much of Hannelore's life has been about dealing with obstacles towards her own independence, learning to take care of herself, and gaining the skills and life experience to overcome her previous inability to function in society without assistance...
Well, even if her mother's intent had nothing to do with any of that, I completely understand why Hannelore would be furious, and am really, really hoping that this aspect of the story doesn't get ignored or brushed to the side. (Because of this, I'm also hoping that Tilly doesn't stay on as Hannelore's assistant.)
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Exactly. I'm not sure Beatrice Chatham is really helping Hannelore to become the heir she claims to want by scuttling Hanners' autonomy like that...
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It’s in character for Beatrice, but what I find odd is that she seems to have waited a few years to spring this on Hannelore. When we last saw her she was bullying Hannelore the whole time until she finally left and since then has only been mentioned. Maybe she gave Hannelore a few years to get “cured” and now attempting to pull her into her world.
Welu:
--- Quote from: Tova on 09 Nov 2017, 16:28 ---My understanding is that we should try to show the same respect to the fictional characters as we do to real people. Right?
Upon meeting someone, would you immediately begin to speculate on their sexuality, whether they are neuro-atypical, or whether they have some disorder? YMMV but that doesn't seem to me like a nice thing to do. Yet it's accepted here, I guess because this is over-analysis central.
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Bolding mine. That is the rule of thumb, but it can be difficult to balance with speculation.
It's good to remember when writing posts that although the characters can't see your posts, the very real people you share the forum with can and do. So try to be aware and compassionate that what can be light speculation and discussion for one person, can be a lived experience for another. Sometimes it can be both.
That doesn't mean don't post. Just something to keep in mind before you do.
TheEvilDog:
Comic's up.
And folks, what we see here is the unstoppable force meeting the immovable object.
Who will give out first? Let the weekend debate begin!
shanejayell:
I'm increasingly feeling sorry for both of them. :-D :-P
mikmaxs:
--- Quote from: brasca on 09 Nov 2017, 16:58 ---
--- Quote from: traroth on 09 Nov 2017, 02:37 ---
--- Quote from: mikmaxs on 09 Nov 2017, 02:31 ---I have to say, considering Hannelore's past issues, severe OCD, and general character arc, this is incredibly condescending and shitty of her mother. She's not just offering to hire a personal assistant, she's effectively forcing one on Hannelore with explicit instructions to ignore Hannelore's consent and autonomy in the situation. When considering that much of Hannelore's life has been about dealing with obstacles towards her own independence, learning to take care of herself, and gaining the skills and life experience to overcome her previous inability to function in society without assistance...
Well, even if her mother's intent had nothing to do with any of that, I completely understand why Hannelore would be furious, and am really, really hoping that this aspect of the story doesn't get ignored or brushed to the side. (Because of this, I'm also hoping that Tilly doesn't stay on as Hannelore's assistant.)
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Exactly. I'm not sure Beatrice Chatham is really helping Hannelore to become the heir she claims to want by scuttling Hanners' autonomy like that...
--- End quote ---
It’s in character for Beatrice, but what I find odd is that she seems to have waited a few years to spring this on Hannelore. When we last saw her she was bullying Hannelore the whole time until she finally left and since then has only been mentioned. Maybe she gave Hannelore a few years to get “cured” and now attempting to pull her into her world.
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I mean, we all know the real reason that she waited a few years - Jeph didn't want to write or didn't think of this plotline until now.
Also, while bullying Hannelore into doing what she wants is in character for Beatrice, all historical evidence showed that Beatrice wanted Hannelore to be independent and self-sufficient, not to have someone handling everything for her. In fact, she has complained about Hannelore's father coddling her too much.
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