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WCDT 3616 to 3621 (20th to 24th November 2017)
Smallest:
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--- Quote from: JimC on 22 Nov 2017, 07:24 ---It might be interesting to know age range of people with reactions to Tilly. Just comes across to me as a naive teenager with big hopes and loads of misconceptions about the world outside school. Seen lots of them. Sure she's turned up to 11 because comic, but its all kinda familiar. You just have to cut them a bit of slack in between keeping on pointing them in the right direction because otherwise they'll never be any use for anything, and sadly school did very little for their socialisation.
So I wonder if some of the folks with great antipathy haven't had quite as many dumb kids they need to train up across their tracks yet? I could be completely off the track, but some aspects of what Hanners is trying to cope with ring some bells for me.
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This to me is a very good point. Tilly to me has never read as a sociopath, potential abusive character, or some big creep (though I can well understand why people would get bunny boiler vibes from her actions). I just think that she's probably young, impressionable, overeager, hypersensitive in her self (though not necessarily to others, yes) and really doesn't have much concept of how the working world really works yet. This is probably exactly why Beatrice recruited her. (There's some sociopathy right there.)
I used to be a University administrator and you'd be surprised how many 20-year-olds I came across who took rejection or things not going to their plan very badly. They've in my view just not been taught or learnt emotional intel or resilience properly (I think you need both to be a good PA without having a nervous breakdown, incidentally) and that's as much a shortcoming of the schooling system they've come from as it is of them to not look up how to do that independently (which of course shows good emotional intelligence and self-awareness).
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I'm 24 and this is basically exactly how I read her too, although I'd say "young, impressionable, overeager, hypersensitive in her self (though not necessarily to others, yes) and really doesn't have much concept of how the working world really works yet, not that it excuses her behaviour." I think if someone (I could see it being Winslow, May, or Faye, but it could be someone else, easily, or Hannelore herself) had a quick conversation about consent and boundaries with her, she'd improve herself and quickly. I mean, I think panel 3 of 3617 is that basically happening already, except with her not responding in the most helpful way.
Smallest:
Also re: there being a dossier I don't think that's really shocking at all. I've never been a PA but it seems fairly likely that you would be briefed on the person you're assisting before meeting them, especially if for someone like Hanners, because her being an heiress could mean being finicky or whatnot that rich people are, and her mental health issues could mean a lot of harm to her (and potentially the PA) if they weren't known.
Is it cold in here?:
--- Quote from: Case on 22 Nov 2017, 18:39 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 22 Nov 2017, 18:01 ---If it's a blindly obedient organization she'd be able to steer it.
If the evil is baked in at the fourth-monkey level and is the default mode when the CEO isn't actively looking at you, she might fail.
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Googling "fourth-monkey level" produced an acting company and a horror-novel, neither of which sounds right, so ... some halp? :oops:
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It's a thought experiment to illustrate how corporate cultures form.
Put four monkeys in a cage, lower a bunch of bananas from the ceiling, and spray them with a fire hose of ice water as soon as they reach for it. Quickly they learn not to reach for the bananas.
Now, remove one of the original four monkeys and put in a new one who's never seen this experiment before. Lower the bananas. The new monkey will reach for them. The other three will beat the crap out of him to prevent the fire hose of ice water from happening again. In short order the newbie gets the idea.
Now take another of the original four away and introduce a second new monkey. It will reach for the bananas. The two veterans and the previous new monkey pile on and beat the crap out of it.
Keep going and you wind up with four monkeys who've never been sprayed with a fire hose of ice water but who will not reach for bananas or tolerate those who do. If they could talk, they'd probably say "That's just not the way we do things around here".
ECI might be full of people like those monkeys. If Hannelore lowered a bunch of socially virtuous projects from the ceiling they might refuse to touch them and beat the crap out of her.
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: Perfectly Reasonable on 22 Nov 2017, 16:36 ---Put it this way-- Hannelore at the helm of ECI will be able to do the world a lot of good.
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That is wholly contingent on what Hanners learns in the meantime. If she were to take on ECI with the best of intentions....well, there's a saying about the best intentions and where they lead.
ChipNoir:
....Can someone remind me of that "Release the Virus" joke was again? It feels relevant.
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