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WCDT 3616 to 3621 (20th to 24th November 2017)
TinPenguin:
If Tiffin were a robot in bad sci-fi, steam would begin to pour from her earvents and attempting to solve the paradox would cause her to malfunction.
However, she's only a corporate robot, so she intends to facilitate the shutdown manually.
Zebediah:
--- Quote from: Akima on 20 Nov 2017, 23:00 ---I imagine that Massachusetts boasts many lakes more conveniently situated than the distant ocean for compensatory drownings. I mean, if you're into that.
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Oh yes. The Quabbin Reservoir is ideal. Large lake only 18 miles from Northampton, rumored to be full of Cthulhoid monsters.
(Seriously, it’s believed that Lovecraft was inspired to write “The Colour Out of Space” by the construction of the Quabbin.)
de_la_Nae:
Oh good.
shanejayell:
Hurrah, she has gotten a CLUE! :-D
Don't drown yourself, dear. Please... :roll:
Case:
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--- Quote from: themacnut on 20 Nov 2017, 14:07 ---Tl,DR version; Clinton didn't know he was being a creep, while Tilly doesn't care.
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I disagree with you there. I think Tilly is also blissfully ignorant of her creepiness.
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That becomes an argument between conscious and subconscious thought/awareness.
Specifically because she was expressly ordered to be oblivious to it by her employer, Beatrice.
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That ... is a logical impossibility. You cannot be blissfully ignorant of something because you've been ordered to be oblivious to it, since you'd have to consciously acknowledge said something in order to follow those orders.
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I have a hard time knowing what to make of this post of yours ...
* Firstly, the term "subconscious awareness" is an oxymoron (*, **) - i.e. this looks like you've tried to support a logically impossible conclusion by adding to it something that is self-contradictory on its face.
* Secondly, editing a quote in the way you did - i.e. retroactively inserting the (violet-coloured) sentence into the original sequence of posts from which it was absent (cf. upthread) - could be interpreted as your trying to suggest that I had overlooked an important part of your argument when I questioned its logical coherence?
Don't want to ascribe any sinister motives to you, but ... do you see how doing this without at least pointing out that the quote was edited could look a little weird?
Look, maybe we should first see whether this isn't simply a semantic problem of confusing the meanings of the verb "to ignore (smth.)" and the adjective "(to be) ignorant (of)" - the former means "to (intentionally) not react to something (that one is aware of)" (***), while the latter means "to be unaware of something" (****), or "to be oblivious to smth.".
Afaics, Tova meant that Tilly might be "blissfully ignorant of her creepiness" (second meaning) when she followed her orders to ignore (first meaning) Hanners' initial attempts at communicating her boundaries.
But it is completely impossible to choose to be ignorant of something, or to follow an order to be ignorant of something - in order to make the choice, or follow the order, you first need to become aware of the something, at which point you are no longer ignorant of it. What we can do is to pretend to others that we are ignorant of something, while in reality we made a conscious choice to ignore it. But this pretence is not a faithful account of reality, and unless we apply some heavy-duty 1984-style doublethink to the problem, at least we ourselves would know it is not.
(*) subconscious [n] - "the totality of mental processes of which the individual is not aware; unreportable mental activities. " (subconscious, www.dictionary.com)
(**) oxymoron [n] - "a figure of speech by which a locution produces an incongruous, seemingly self-contradictory effect, as in “cruel kindness” or “to make haste slowly.”." (oxymoron, www.dictionary.com)
(***) ignore [v] - "to intentionally not listen or give attention to" (ignore, www.dictionary.com)
(****) ignorant [adj] - "not having enough knowledge, understanding, or information about something" ignorant, www.dictionary.com)
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