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WCDT 3621 to 3625 (27th November to 1st December 2017)

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pwhodges:
Note, there's now a thread in Discuss! in which discussion of gender in language is happening.

snufflebottoms:
I honestly feel like Jeph made Tilly non-binary in an attempt to make them less vulnerable to hate. Like, I'm going to make them a giant asshole but then I'm going to add in this part as their hook and ignore the fact that this character is just amazingly grating.

Then over time, the character will become more likable. But not so much because we know them more but because they have stopped the bad behavior. Idk, meh.

And I do not find them cute. Maybe in the first introduction but then they kept talking lol.

BenRG:

--- Quote from: snufflebottoms on 30 Nov 2017, 05:09 ---I honestly feel like Jeph made Tilly non-binary in an attempt to make them less vulnerable to hate. Like, I'm going to make them a giant asshole but then I'm going to add in this part as their hook and ignore the fact that this character is just amazingly grating.
--- End quote ---

That was my concern at first but, looking back on this arc, there has been hints in the character design from the outset that they're non-binary and several forum members both here and on the Subreddit picked up on this at the time. The real problem here is that Jeph chose to introduce them and their self-identification in a very clumsy way at a time and place when it feels like an attempt to slap a band-aid on an unpopular character, even though it actually isn't.

This may be a controversial position but, in my opinion, giving Tilly a free pass for all their mis-steps and outright agency-denials with Hannelore just because they're from a minority gender identity would be just as great a disservice than hating them for no other reason than said identity.

TheEvilDog:
Tilly could have been an interesting character, with a story that could have worked well in the QC-verse.

Unfortunately, first impressions linger far longer than we would like and Tilly's was less than stellar. Her introduction was somewhat clumsy and got rather tired rather quickly. Not only that, but it presented a long established character in a rather out of character manner for much of the arc. Add in the fact that this story has gone on for the best part of a month and I think this might be an arc we'll all try to pretend never happened, both for the reaction of the forum and the arc itself.

Cornelius:
That's exactly how I feel about it, as well, though perhaps more for the reaction than the arc itself.

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