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WCDT 3621 to 3625 (27th November to 1st December 2017)
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: swapna on 01 Dec 2017, 10:33 ---I presume that not calling Tilly by their name was okay was a) because it was a running gag and b) she's not actually that likable as a character. Which made her the Other, the corporate drone, Beatrices brainwashed leash sicced on Hannelore - less than human. When they asked for their correct name? Fuck them, they didn't deserve it.
Tilly asking for the correct pronouns, however, makes them human to a lot of people here. Suddenly, the first time someone uses the wrong ones they get corrected.
It is hilarious, though, and hypocritical. I still think the arc/character aren't great, and Tilly isn't sympathetic to me, but that was/is hilarious to watch.
Of course refusing someone their name is just as dehumanising as denying them their pronouns, if not more so; it is their identity, after all.
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It is also about respect. Respect is one of those human qualities where you don't have to like someone but you can still show respect. It costs nothing, it hurts no one and its still the right thing to do.
Tilly might not be a particularly popular character, but the instant they say what pronouns they would like people to use, respect that request. Yes, they might be a fictional character, but it is still a good habit to develop. We have a number of non-binary people on the forum, and misgendering people shows them disrespect as well, which frankly riles me up more than Tilly has.
People don't ask for a lot in life, just a little respect and it goes a long way. Those who are quite aggressive in the forum are the exception, not the rule and hopefully things will calm down in the next couple of days and hopefully they will remember that respect goes both ways. If they can't show it, they won't get it.
swapna:
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 01 Dec 2017, 10:45 ---
--- Quote from: swapna on 01 Dec 2017, 10:33 ---I presume that not calling Tilly by their name was okay was a) because it was a running gag and b) they're not actually that likable as a character. Which made them the Other, the corporate drone, Beatrices brainwashed leash sicced on Hannelore - less than human. When they asked for their correct name? Fuck them, they didn't deserve it.
Tilly asking for the correct pronouns, however, makes them human to a lot of people here. Suddenly, the first time someone uses the wrong ones they get corrected.
It is hilarious, though, and hypocritical. I still think the arc/character aren't great, and Tilly isn't sympathetic to me, but that was/is hilarious to watch.
Of course refusing someone their name is just as dehumanising as denying them their pronouns, if not more so; it is their identity, after all.
--- End quote ---
It is also about respect. Respect is one of those human qualities where you don't have to like someone but you can still show respect. It costs nothing, it hurts no one and its still the right thing to do.
Tilly might not be a particularly popular character, but the instant they say what pronouns they would like people to use, respect that request. Yes, they might be a fictional character, but it is still a good habit to develop. We have a number of non-binary people on the forum, and misgendering people shows them disrespect as well, which frankly riles me up more than Tilly has.
People don't ask for a lot in life, just a little respect and it goes a long way. Those who are quite aggressive in the forum are the exception, not the rule and hopefully things will calm down in the next couple of days and hopefully they will remember that respect goes both ways. If they can't show it, they won't get it.
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Holy crap I used her a few times. Not on purpose though; I'll change it up right away, but that was a mistake.
And I agree on the respect thing, which is why it annoyed me so much when people kept calling them different names, especially since in-comic they corrected Hanners more than once. Why would you see misnaming as okay?
Is it cold in here?:
Few people and maybe none thought it was OK for Hannelore to get Ms. Birch's name wrong when we thought it might be deliberate.
Mis-naming her on the forum was part of the comic's running gag, but "OK" was too strong a word for something that made so many people uncomfortable.
Thrudd:
Is the character, that seems to irritate a number of people like the high pitched whine of a mosquito in the room, getting shorter?
Standing on her hands with arms extended she is as long tall as Marten is tall [double checks spelling]
NemesisDancer:
--- Quote from: Jakk Frost on 01 Dec 2017, 09:33 ---Then it was "black" that was the PC thing to say, then that became a racist term and the new thing was "African American", except now that's not PC, because many black people don't come from Africa, and visiting Africans take offense to being called "African American, and the proper term is once again "black".
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I once encountered someone who said he'd been told off by someone online for referring to himself as "black" and not "African American". He was British. :P
--- Quote from: Thrudd on 01 Dec 2017, 12:24 ---Is the character, that seems to irritate a number of people like the high pitched whine of a mosquito in the room, getting shorter?
Standing on her hands with arms extended she is as long tall as Marten is tall [double checks spelling]
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I was thinking that Marten looks as though he's shrunk a bit - his waist and legs seem shorter than usual.
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