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WCDT Strips 3636 to 3640 (18th to 22nd December 2017)
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: mercykills on 20 Dec 2017, 01:31 ---O, and I'm one hundred percent sure Hannelore shoving Beatrice will be accepted by everyone and won't prove controversial in the least. :roll:
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Yeah, no. Strangely enough I posted on Jeph's Patreon site that I felt it was not only an unnecessary shove, but also a bit out of character for Hanners, and immediately people disagreed with me, so over there it seems to be almost universally accepted, which I find very odd.
How was a shove necessary here? I get that she's angry and wants to sever ties with her mom, but all that could've easily been handled verbally.
As much as I love Hanners as a character, she was out of line with her physical attack (yes, it was 'only' a shove, but still).
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 20 Dec 2017, 04:33 ---
This could go many ways...
As has been mentioned above the, "Eeexcellent! Your hatred has made you strong!" moment.
Or a "Just you wait a minute, Missy!" moment.
Or an even more anti-climactic, 'Back-at-Hanners' place' - "So, Tilly, this is how things are gonna go..." moment
I'm praying this is the end of the Tilly arc...
But, as we all know, prayers are pointless.
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Other options:
-Beatrice going after her and realizing how she's behaved, leading to a 'moment' between the 2.
-Beatrice commenting on how proud she is of Hanners right now, leading to Hanners' shocking realization that she has more in common with her mom than she would like
-Beatrice threatening Hanners about suing her for the shove unless she cooperates in this negotiation ploy
etc., etc.
The most interesting to me would be if after a while it comes out that Tilly was in on it all.
BenRG:
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 20 Dec 2017, 04:42 ---
--- Quote from: mercykills on 20 Dec 2017, 01:31 ---O, and I'm one hundred percent sure Hannelore shoving Beatrice will be accepted by everyone and won't prove controversial in the least. :roll:
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Yeah, no. Strangely enough I posted on Jeph's Patreon site that I felt it was not only an unnecessary shove, but also a bit out of character for Hanners, and immediately people disagreed with me, so over there it seems to be almost universally accepted, which I find very odd.
How was a shove necessary here? I get that she's angry and wants to sever ties with her mom, but all that could've easily been handled verbally.
As much as I love Hanners as a character, she was out of line with her physical attack (yes, it was 'only' a shove, but still).
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The problem is that you're interpreting this rationally when 'rational' was in no part any element of Hannelore's mind-set at the time. The shove was 'necessary' as the end point of a lifetime of condescension and manipulation during which Beatrice has made it very clear that she perceives Hannelore as a disobedient child whose mental health issues are just her acting out for attention. Hannelore has had enough of her mother thinking that she can impose her will and agenda on her and anger drove her actions.
FWIW, I interpret events as this way:
* Beatrice comes from behind her desk and gets in Hannelore's face;
* Hannelore pushes her back out of her personal space;
* Hannelore then starts telling Beatrice off but (and this is interesting) still generally respects her space, except by a jabbed finger.Onto the subject of rest of the week, I'm expecting at least one reaction strip for Hannelore, possibly her crying on Tilly's shoulder about the fact that "I don't have a mummy anymore." Friday will almost certainly be Beatrice's reaction, possibly talking to her PA in a deliberate mirror of Hannelore's reaction.;
hakko504:
--- Quote from: Bad Superman on 20 Dec 2017, 04:01 ---We still have two more comics this week to find out…
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And since Jeph tends to do fillers in the week between Christmas and New Year, I expect this to be fully resolved by then. One of those strips will be Hanners talking to Tilly. One may be Beatrice trying to understand Hanners.
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 20 Dec 2017, 04:42 ---How was a shove necessary here? I get that she's angry and wants to sever ties with her mom, but all that could've easily been handled verbally.
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It's OOC yes, but that's basically what was necessary for Bea to actually shut up. A simple verbal notice would have left her with an opening to come back that the shove prevents.
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Damnit, Ben, you beat me to the point
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 20 Dec 2017, 04:48 ---
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 20 Dec 2017, 04:33 ---
This could go many ways...
As has been mentioned above the, "Eeexcellent! Your hatred has made you strong!" moment.
Or a "Just you wait a minute, Missy!" moment.
Or an even more anti-climactic, 'Back-at-Hanners' place' - "So, Tilly, this is how things are gonna go..." moment
I'm praying this is the end of the Tilly arc...
But, as we all know, prayers are pointless.
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Other options:
-Beatrice going after her and realizing how she's behaved, leading to a 'moment' between the 2.
-Beatrice commenting on how proud she is of Hanners right now, leading to Hanners' shocking realization that she has more in common with her mom than she would like
-Beatrice threatening Hanners about suing her for the shove unless she cooperates in this negotiation ploy
etc., etc.
The most interesting to me would be if after a while it comes out that Tilly was in on it all.
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Ah yes... I forgot the "moment of maternal introspection'
(maybe it's cause I can't see such a schmaltzy thing happening, but yes, it is an option.)
(I think the other two you mention above are sort of covered in my 1st and 2nd possibilities... :) )
As far as Tilly being in on it.. well, yeah, possible, But doesn't seem *too* likely (to me!)
(I'm SURE I made a post last night (but cannot see it, and can't quite remember the thrust of it) ...something like going on about the call Tilly had with Daddy Dearest, and how that call shows that he was going against "The Deal" and Tilly would blow it wide open by mentioning it, and Beatrice would use it to sue his arse off, and somehow this would lead to Tilly becoming a regular "Hanner's friend"...
And again.. praying such a thing does NOT happen!) :)
Aye, tomorrow will be interesting...
Oh... and re:
--- Quote from: dutchrvl --- Yeah, no. Strangely enough I posted on Jeph's Patreon site that I felt it was not only an unnecessary shove, but also a bit out of character for Hanners, and immediately people disagreed with me, so over there it seems to be almost universally accepted, which I find very odd.
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I wouldn't be *too* surprised at that...
Seemingly those same people LOVE Taffy! :)
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