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WCDT Strips 3636 to 3640 (18th to 22nd December 2017)
Technoir:
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--- Quote from: Technoir on 18 Dec 2017, 05:47 ---But, presumably, Tilly is a legal adult and should be perfectly capable of advocating for themselves, thus mitigating the need for Hannelore to "bring them back" like some sort of stray puppy that needs protecting from the evil she-bitch pitbull (aka Empress Beatrice). Hannelore has Winslow. She doesn't need another subservient being hanging around her, especially one who is not above using emotional manipulation to achieve their goals.
Speaking of emotional manipulation... At what point should I just cut the cord on a "friend" who has, several time in the past couple years, whenever her life goes to shit, told me that if i ever stopped being her friend, she'd probably just kill herself?
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Legally yes, but morally? Honestly Tilly strikes me as a house elf in some ways; I doubt they'd be able to function in regular society. And of course the thing about being a good person is that sometimes you do things even if they're not strictly needed. Hanners could definitely have called the cops on Tilly and had them dragged off, problem solved, but then she wouldn't be Hanners, would she?
EDIT: Also, have you discussed it with her? Has she been open to change? I'd honestly say that there's no better time than the present if it is clear that she'll never change her ways.
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That's an interesting view of the situation, and yes, I can see Tilly as somewhat house-elf-like.
Sidebar: Yes, we've had discussions. She does well for a while, but then something triggers a relapse into unhealthy behaviours. ie she'll be dating a guy, and he ends up being a jerk, and she spirals into substance abuse and dangerous activities (like banging random dudes off Tindr and Craigslist) and wishing she'd just dated me when she had the chance 10 yrs ago. Meanwhile, I get to be her emotional tampon since, despite my rough edges and lack of patience for a lot of things, i do care about her wellbeing and want her to be happy.
Zebediah:
I picture it going down like this:
Hannelore: "Mother, this has got to stop." * ignites lightsaber *
Beatrice: "Strike me down, and your journey towards the Dark Side will be complete."
Hannelore: "Stuff it, mom. My journey to the Dark Side was complete a long time ago." * slice dice fillet *
Beatrice: "That's my girl!" * dies *
:evil:
Bad Superman:
The question I have is, if Tilly's aware of their role as a mere pawn in someone else's power play? So far I'm willing to say they aren't, because I just can't see them as being intentionally backstabby towards Hannelore! But who knows...
So, if no, and they come to realise it (especially because one of the players is their own father) → Poor Tilly! (Yes, I said it...)
If yes... well... I'd like to see them (Tilly and Beatrice) explain that to Hannelore..!
swapna:
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 18 Dec 2017, 05:55 ---@BenRG, I really want to know how your brain goes from Point A to Point Q-832-Alpha...
The most likely explanation as to why Hanners has taken Tilly with her is quite simply, it involves Tilly too. They are a negotiating tool between their father and Beatrice. You can't treat people like that and that is something Tilly needs to hear. It might hurt them, but they'll need to know as well.
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Agreed. The alternatives aren't really great: Hanners could go alone, and exclude Tilly from negotiations/discussions they will be the central topic of, or Tilly goes alone and Hannelore can't explain to her mother in person why her behaviour is problematic.
As far as we know, Tilly doesn't know that they're used as a bargain chip.
Also, concerning inheritance: We know Beatrice is rich as hell, and the lion's share of Hanners' inheritance is probably hers. So if she wants to cut off Hanners from that, she absolutely can - not just because the company is hers and Hanners' father has his own ventures, but also because Beatrice is a shark who abuses every single loophole if she has to.
But, tbh, I really hope the focus shifts from the Tilly-Drama to the Chatham family drama, because if Tilly never actually managed to be a sympathetic or even interesting character.
Marco:
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 18 Dec 2017, 06:44 ---I picture it going down like this:
Hannelore: "Mother, this has got to stop." * ignites lightsaber *
Beatrice: "Strike me down, and your journey towards the Dark Side will be complete."
Hannelore: "Stuff it, mom. My journey to the Dark Side was complete a long time ago." * slice dice fillet *
Beatrice: "That's my girl!" * dies *
:evil:
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Oddly enough, Hanners wearing black reminded my of Luke's outfit in Return of The Jedi. Looks like The Last Jedi messed up with more people's minds than my own. Maybe even Jeph's?
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