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WCDT Strips 3636 to 3640 (18th to 22nd December 2017)

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Bad Superman:

--- Quote from: MrNumbers on 22 Dec 2017, 01:29 ---I just don't like them as a character. It's not a forgiveness thing, because they're not a real person, they're a literary device, and I didn't think they were effective as one.

It's not hatred. It's not big or pronounced. She's just boring and mildly irritating. And it's annoying because this comic wasn't otherwise lacking for a cast of more interesting characters to use.
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^ This, pretty much.

This story was "Beatrice does something extremely shitty, thus forcing Hannelore's hand once and for all."

Tilly was basically a human MacGuffin whose introduction into the comic was slow, heavy-handed and unnecessary. For me, they added nothing of substance to the story arc. It felt like they were being used to fill a weeks worth of pages, but nothing beyond that. Tilly may become a part of the QC crew, but me personally, I don't see any benefit in keeping them.

That being said, todays comic made even *me* want to hug Tilly. MacGuffin or not, no one deserves being used as a pawn and have their dreams crushed with so much... indifference, as Beatrice did!

Tova:

--- Quote from: MrNumbers on 22 Dec 2017, 01:29 ---Instead we've had Hannelore be the backup spoon drawer for a new character that hasn't earned it, because they need to steal spotlight to jumpstart their position in the story.

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Can you explain this sentence to me? I don't grok what it is saying.

bhtooefr:
In disability and mental illness culture, there's a metaphor based around "having spoons" - spoons effectively being a sort of currency that has to be spent to go through the day, and have a variable daily allocation.

So, someone being "out of spoons" is mentally unable to continue doing anything that day, and on a bad day (when their disability or mental illness is particularly severe), they'll have a low allocation of spoons to begin with - maybe not even enough to get out of bed.

Neko_Ali:
This entire year has absolutely wrecked my spoon drawer for instance... Between idiots in office actively trying to make the world a more miserable place, enhanced work stress and an atmosphere of hostility both for people in general and against people like me in specific I've really not got a lot left to deal with day to day life. Another way I've heard to describe this sort of 'mental fuel tank' in a more geeky way is describing like the D&D (Vancian) magic system. You only have so many 'spell slots' per day to do things with and you have to manage them carefully. Little things like brushing your teeth or getting your mail might be first level slots. Bigger things like calling strangers might be higher levels. Cutting an abusive parent out of your life might require expending several high level slots that will wipe you out afterwards leaving you not able to deal with anything for a while until you get to take some 'long rests' and recover.


--- Quote from: Tova on 22 Dec 2017, 01:07 ---SO if you hated Tilly because they hurt Hanners, and now not only has Tilly expressed remorse for doing so, but Hanners has also clearly forgiven them, my question to you is - can you do the same?

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It's an important distinction that I didn't like Tilly not because they harassed Hannelore, but because of their push 'won't take no for an answer' attitude. Because they actively refused to respect boundaries even when they were clearly outlined for them. Now that Tilly has recognized, acknowledged and is remorseful for what they did maybe I can move past that, so long as they change. And not just to Hanners, but everyone.

RMc:
No. Tilly still doesn't feel like a person. They are a collection of aggravating traits designed to move the Hanners story on. Giving them the armour of being non-binary, a trait that has not moved any plot on by one iota, feels manipulative.

Tilly's that way to inoculate the character from criticism. ("How DARE you criticize them, you horrible bigot!")

Terrible character, unengaging plot.

Yep and yep.

And, hey, for a "corporate demigod", Beatrice is quite the pushover, isn't she? But, of course, she's not allowed to push back against the beloved Hannelore; if she did, fangirls would burn down the entire internet. (Not that that would necessarily be a bad thing.)

So...no resolution, just hugging and dull-as-dishwater dialogue. Geez. Forget taking a week off, Jeph...sounds like you need a year or two away from the drawing board.

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