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WCDT Strips 3641 to 3645 (25th - 30th December 2017)
traroth:
--- Quote from: Cornelius on 29 Dec 2017, 14:21 ---There are some advantages to the longbow, though, such as speed of firing, and the fact that it is easily r setting. Some sure that that is the major point that won Agincourt, as the rain had made the French crossbows useless, while the longbowmen had kept their bowstrings dry.
It seems that even then, there was no authority that could keep the evolution of arms at bay.
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At the battle of Azincourt in 1415, in the middle of the Hundred Years War, 6000 to 9000 english bowmen (so commoners) with longbows defeated 12000 to 36000 french knights (so noblemens) in armor. It was the end of knighthood in it's literal meaning.
TheEvilDog:
--- Quote from: traroth on 03 Jan 2018, 08:55 ---
--- Quote from: Cornelius on 29 Dec 2017, 14:21 ---There are some advantages to the longbow, though, such as speed of firing, and the fact that it is easily r setting. Some sure that that is the major point that won Agincourt, as the rain had made the French crossbows useless, while the longbowmen had kept their bowstrings dry.
It seems that even then, there was no authority that could keep the evolution of arms at bay.
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At the battle of Azincourt in 1415, in the middle of the Hundred Years War, 6000 to 9000 english bowmen (so commoners) with longbows defeated 12000 to 36000 french knights (so noblemens) in armor. It was the end of knighthood in it's literal meaning.
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To be fair, the Battle of Agincourt was won because the French lost the main advantage of their knights, that of speed and mobility, because the battlefield had turned into a mudbath due to heavy rain, allowing the English archers more time to pummel the knights with arrows.
In truth, if the battle had been fought days later or if it hadn't been raining, the battle should have been a rout of the English, or an outright massacre. In fact, the Battle of Patay 14 years later, was a victory for the French because they were able to charge the lines of English archers before they even finished getting into place.
Cornelius:
That, and the crossbowmen's strings were pretty much useless, again due to the rain.
When it comes to commoners against knights, may I offer the battle of the Golden Spurs, 1302? 9.500 Flemish citizens, and militia, of whom 9.000 foot soldiers, against an army of 8.000 French, with 2.700 mounted knights, and 1.000 crossbowmen. Again, the French were defeated mostly due to the terrain. It wasreported to the pope as the first battle where infantry defeated an army of knights. Though, to be fair, there was Bannockburn, and the old Swiss Confederation, before that.
Gyrre:
--- Quote from: hedgie on 03 Jan 2018, 07:40 ---
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 02 Jan 2018, 17:35 ---I've been to Eastern Orthodox, Episcapalian services, is it really that different than those?
(BTW, I was raised Nazarene, so I can see why Protestantism really took off.)
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It's more like the motto for some people who have quit drinking that "one drink is one too many".
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Generally, or are you singling out the really preachy, self-righteous ones?
pwhodges:
--- Quote from: hedgie on 03 Jan 2018, 07:40 ---It's more like the motto for some people who have quit drinking that "one drink is one too many".
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That's more than just a facile motto - it's an important recognition of the nature of addiction.
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