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WCDT Strips 3656-3660 (15th to 19th January 2018)
SpanielBear:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 19 Jan 2018, 15:52 ---And yet with exercise, over time some aspects of it will start to become habit. It's not as though we don't already have controls in our thinking and speaking, after all.
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The chances of me putting my foot in my mouth are Oh so very high with what I'm about to say. But that seems relevant.
Language changes. And it does so quite quickly, within decades at the moment. Words and descriptions that were commonplace in my childhood are now offensive and taboo (this is almost always a good thing. This is not one of *those* posts.)
Problem is, we don't clock the language changes at an equal rate. For example, cis as a description of heterosexuality (See- this is *wrong*, and it's to do with gender as was kindly pointed out below, and if you'll excuse me I'm gonna go scream into a pillow for a while) became the accepted word faster than I realised, and I got caught out by it back in the day. And because humans don't always learn things well or perfectly, we still get caught out even after learning the new language once, twice or however many times before it becomes habit.
So while it's true to say we can control what we say and how we say it, it's more a case of trending towards the common norm, not reaching a point of perfection. Sadly.
That all said, I think that concluding that all human interaction becomes a minefield of offense so bad one may as well return to the trees we swung down from is wrong (and probably hyperbole on the parts of those who said it anyway). We only learn by talking and listening, and there's a reason loneliness is seen as an epidemic- we're too social a species to survive well on our own. Even if we do get on each others nerves, like, all the time. So many nerves. All of the nerves.
So yeah, I'm not exactly disagreeing, but just reflecting that getting language right isn't a smooth process.
Wombat:
--- Quote from: SpanielBear on 19 Jan 2018, 16:55 ---For example, cis as a description of heterosexuality became the accepted word faster than I realised,
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This connects to your point, so I hope you don't mind me saying it-- "cis" does not refer to heterosexuality; there are plenty of cis gay people, for example. Cis refers to gender and means that one's gender identity aligns with the gender one was assigned at birth.
badbum61:
God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater...uh, I mean Jacques!
TheBiscuit:
I feel like it's kind of pointless to attach these deep levels of meaning to a strip involving Melon. Doesn't it feel to you as though whenever she comes on panel, the comic just takes a break from all that which is serious and / or rational? That it just becomes all about the punchline, in a way that QC normally is not? That's my take on it.
If you insist on looking at it seriously, Melon didn't seem in any way unhappy with the transaction. Doesn't that count for anything? Last time when she expressed dismay at the $75 fee for her ass, it was partly because she had expected or hoped to get emergency treatment for free. Which, at least in my culture, is not an entirely unreasonable thing for an intelligent being to expect. She had also lost (launched into orbit) her wallet, which is another reason she wouldn't be thrilled to pay out for her new ass.
Once the idea of payment was established, she didn't seem to object to the specific price.
fayelovesbubbles:
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 19 Jan 2018, 12:26 ---
--- Quote from: fayelovesbubbles on 18 Jan 2018, 19:26 ---
Part of my reaction to her is probably partly because of dealing with women like her in my women's studies courses when I was in college. Graduate students can be the absolute worst.
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Yeah, I got that distinct impression that your impression of Evie has been somewhat (heavily maybe?) colored by your own negative experiences in college. Mostly because you seem to be transferring negative personality traits of those you encountered onto a cartoon character we know virtually nothing about. Some of your suppositions "I'm sure Evie lives in an echo chamber full of academics who think she has a brilliant mind" is not really based on anything.
If anything, PhD students are never treated as brilliant in academia, even when they may be. If anything, PhD students are reminded continually that they know basically nothing. I will say though that I am only speaking of those in STEM, I can't speak for those in humanities and social studies.
I agree though that graduate students can be the worst though...
Oh by the way, please note that I respect your opinion and am in no means trying to harp on you, it's mostly since your opinion on Evie seems to be by far the most negative here, and based on what we know atm I am surprised how anyone could have any particularly strong opinion yet about who she is. A strong opinion on how she interacted with Bubbles, sure, but sweeping conclusion on her personality/character or even upbringing (I think Morituri said 'wallowing in privilige', wonder where that came from??) are rather premature.
I will stop about this now.
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Like I said, I dislike her more than anyone else on this forum. And I'm fine with that. I don't really agree that we don't see who she is yet, but that's what you think, and that's fine.
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