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WCDT Strips 3661-3665 (22nd to 26th January 2018)
WoaLG:
--- Quote from: Frankquith on 25 Jan 2018, 00:09 ---Speaking as someone who's brother completed a PhD (in Engineering, but nonetheless), it is completely fair that Evie is going way too psychoanalytical. Depending on how far through it she is, her PhD might be most of what Evie thinks about, if not almost her entire life right now.
There were weeks where I almost didn't see him, despite us living at the same address.
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This is my thought too. It's probably just the way Evie processes the world, not deliberately trying to psychoanalyze Faye.
I still think that there are too many problems with Bubbles and Faye being together.
Bad Superman:
I'm still arguing with myself about today's comic.
Personally, I would respond very poorly to this kind of questioning by someone I barely know, even to the point of telling the other person to shut the hell up. On the other hand, in Faye's case maybe a little "professional" nudging toward the (hopefully) right direction is better than "OMG!! You totally have the hots for Bubbles, why can't you see that??!"
Hm… let’s see how this works out.
Case:
EDIT: @Frankquith: Ignore this if you did not mean "Evie might see Fayebubs as potentional research subjects"
(And yes, graduatebrain is weird, obsessive and generally a jerk. You could call it a hideous egomaniac if it'd acknowledge the concept of "other people" in the first place. Speaker at the graduation ceremony seriously suggested to us that the first thing we should do after getting our 'new surname' was to apologize profusely to everybody who was still talking to us.)
--- Quote from: ChipNoir on 24 Jan 2018, 20:54 ---On the otherhand, it's very obvious that Evie see's this as the perfect opportunity to document a human/AI romantic relationship as it unfolds in real time, and the last thing these two needs is for Evie to go Steve Irwin on them.
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--- Quote from: Frankquith on 25 Jan 2018, 00:09 ---Speaking as someone who's brother completed a PhD (in Engineering, but nonetheless), it is completely fair that Evie is going way too psychoanalytical. Depending on how far through it she is, her PhD might be most of what Evie thinks about, if not almost her entire life right now.
There were weeks where I almost didn't see him, despite us living at the same address.
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Speaking as someone who holds a PhD (in theoretical physics, but nonetheless): Nurrr-urrrh. Nope. Never would.
And that's before thinking about ethics committees and rules on conduct with human subjects in research (not that I have the first idea what those rules are, I just know that Zimbardo raised quite a stink with his Stanford Prison experiment) - it's not Berkely in the 1960s anymore. The finest paper ain't worth it when you don't have a career left because no researcher outside North Korea will even talk to you (let alone be seen with you) ...
https://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/regulations-and-policy/belmont-report/index.html
http://www.apa.org/research/responsible/human/index.aspx?tab=4
Not to mention that your SO's sister is probably a really bad choice for a testing subject in the first place, because:
a) She's connected to you. Means that your presence has a high chance of influencing the resultant data in unforeseen ways. Did I hear anybody say "Re-pro-du-cea-bili-ty"?
b) You wanna keep that SO? Or ever again have anyone with relatives & and an internet connection consider you for the role of SO again? Like ever? Yeah, bad choice ...
Edit: One of your testing subjects is a combat veteran who smells of Black Ops so badly the Army denies knowing how to spell her name? Right, let's dive right into her artificial brainmeats, potentially full of stuff that Really Scary PeopleTM don't want anybody to know about ... ("Key members of parliament. Key ...")
EditEdit: Chapter 1.4 of the American Psychological Association's "Ethics in Research With Human Participants" is titled "Informed Consent" - a whole chapter in the first section of a 215 page guidebook (not even the actual legal protections or institutional procedures) devoted to the one term "informed consent" alone.
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: Shjade on 24 Jan 2018, 09:12 ---
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 24 Jan 2018, 02:24 ---"Yes, these people are responsible for me living the lifestyle that I have, and appreciate my artistic output... but their all weirdos and I want nothing to do with them." ... kinda thing ??
That saddens me.
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When you look at how this forum reacted to, for instance, Tilly, a character Jeph actively enjoyed drawing, can you really blame him?
What reason does this forum give him to like it?
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I'm tempted to point at your own "sig line" as response... :)
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: pwhodges on 24 Jan 2018, 15:20 ---
--- Quote from: Case on 24 Jan 2018, 14:38 ---I guess one could say that an author is incapable of speculating about their own intentions for future developments in their creations, because they know what their intentions are.
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OTOH, it is not uncommon for writers to say they do not know their character's mind until it appears in the writing, and that sometimes they are surprised.
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Absolutely.
When I look back at my first scribblings, and then at the books that emerged, I am often shocked.
My worst (or best) example was my 'Werewolf' book where I had the whole thing plotted out.
Stuff happens, friendship between teenage boy and young man (the wolf), stuff happens, stuff happens, Teenage Boy saves the world.
And then I wrote the book... and the Teenage Boy was torn apart half way through the book.
Even as I was writing it I was actually saying out loud to myself.. "What the hell are you doing!?"
The only way I can explain it is that the story didn't want to be written the way I wanted it...
And ultimately I think it was all the better for it.
So, yeah... Authors are often just as in the dark about what they are going to write than those reading the final work.
(And it's the departures from the "expected" that cause the drama... (both ON and OFF the page*!) :)
*Tilly / The Last Jedi... ;)
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