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WCDT Strips 3661-3665 (22nd to 26th January 2018)
SpanielBear:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 25 Jan 2018, 16:12 ---Here's another way to express what's disturbing me about Evie and raising uncertainties which may or may not get comforting answers.
Evie is asking questions which she, of all people, should know are the type of questions that lead to insights and revelations.
The Pugnacious Peach has not given permission to be made self-aware.
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Isn't that part of the social contract though? If you have a conversation, you may learn something. It may be something you didn't want to know, although chances are it'll just be finding out that the other person agrees with you that weather's awful. I don't expect to have to give consent to have my mind changed.
You seem to be saying that because Evie can be assumed to have the skills to drive a conversation in a certain way, she needs to make sure the other person is okay with her doing so. But I think that is placing far to much emphasis on the effectiveness of her training. Being a psychiatrist doesn't make you suddenly able to induce revelations in others with a few words- it would be amazing if it did, and scary. But in truth, analysis takes months, sometimes years, and doesn't just happen over coke and a burger. Evie isn't going to make Faye do anything or think anything as a result of asking leading questions. Worst case scenario she gets it entirely wrong, get's her foot wedged in her mouth and Faye chews her out.
Because Faye is not powerless, is not a shrinking violet, and has demonstrated that she is quite happy to tell people where to get off if they are out of line. But she hasn't. They're just talking. Faye has every right to say stop if she feels pressured or insulted, but she hasn't.
As to the idea that Evie is somehow practicing without a licence- just no. She and Faye are not in a proffesional relationship, Faye cannot be construed to be or have thought herself Evie's client, Evie has not charged for her services or even presented what she is saying as an expert opinion. What she and Faye discuss is not covered by patient/doctor priviledge, and only confidential insofar as any private conversation being held in a public place might be.
Seriously guys they are Just. Talking. Whether it is rude, impolite, personal, tmi- these are all things that Faye can feel, but it would be on her to say that. The reason Evie was being obnoxious before was because Bubbles *did* clearly say she was uncomfortable, many times and Evie ignored her. Faye has not said anything to indicate that Evie is out of line.
Marco:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 24 Jan 2018, 22:11 ---Bubbles might be a superb choice for a life partner for Faye.
The other way around?
I think Bubbles needs somebody steadier. Though they are clearly getting along well.
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I'm pretty sure this things have nothing to do with choice... In my experince, at least, you just fall into it, even if it takes a long time to realize what's happening.
brasca:
--- Quote from: Tova on 25 Jan 2018, 02:47 ---
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 24 Jan 2018, 19:34 ---I would argue that it’s without Faye’s consent due to Evie asking the kind of questions that you hear in a therapy session. She’s asking her girlfriend’s sister deeply probing questions over dinner, with her girlfriend right next to her. Evie is the proof of the old adage that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
There is a time and a place to ask these questions and dinner the first evening you’ve met the sister is not it.
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And yet Faye is completely comfortable in answering, so I don't understand the fuss.
This is the problem with getting offended on behalf of someone else who is perfectly capable of taking care of themselves.
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Agreed. If Faye had a problem with this she wouldn’t shy away from making her objections known.
Neko_Ali:
Except none of that is what Evie is doing. She's not in session with Faye. She's not offering her consulting or psychotherapy. She's asking probing questions. In a conversation that was already about relationships. That is not the same thing. If rules were that strict it would be almost impossible for anyone seeking almost any kind of medical degree to talk to people about how they are doing. This is all expanding what is happening to absurd degrees and guessing at ways she could, but is not, twisting what's happening to improper means. I know the forum loves to overanalyze the comics, but this is really going beyond.
Case:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 25 Jan 2018, 16:12 ---The Pugnacious Peach has not given permission to be made self-aware.
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Neither does Evie have any way of knowing whether Faye can deal with what she (potentially) learns about herself (or has even tried to get Faye's measure in that respect, as far as we know).
No, none of her behaviour is "bad", or a clearcut "wrong" per se, it just strikes me as ... careless and lacking in respect for Faye's personhood and the seriousness of the task of assisting another with their insights into their own mind. And I share Castlerook's hunch that it seems as least as much about self-gratification as it is about helping Faye.
IDK, maybe it's just down to different upbringing, or cultural differences or whatever.
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