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WCDT Strips 3661-3665 (22nd to 26th January 2018)
Case:
--- Quote from: Jeemy on 26 Jan 2018, 08:49 ---<stuff>
.......except I've never been part of a community before where if I don't use the right pronouns, I am denounced...maybe thats because in 40 years on this earth, I have still not met anybody who thinks they are so important they deserve their own pronouns.......
<more stuff>
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This is the only thing I will say on this topic: It is possible to use too many ellipses.
(Yes, I'm aware of the irony implicit in me, of all people, pointing that out)
Emperor Norton:
I do think that this forum as a whole seems to very very quickly look for the worst in every new character introduced (sometimes inventing things that aren't even THERE. Seriously if half the stuff that offended the people on the forum was how they treated people they meet in real life, I can't imagine how they would ever have any friends).
It is honestly why I went back to lurking for a long time rather than ever posting. It is just tiring.
A small perverse otter:
--- Quote from: Castlerook on 26 Jan 2018, 08:55 ---
--- Quote from: Jeemy on 26 Jan 2018, 08:49 --- I have still not met anybody who thinks they are so important they deserve their own pronouns.......
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This is the only thing I will say on this topic.
No one is so important that they deserve their own pronouns.
Everyone is important enough to deserve ordinary, decent respect in how they are seen and identified.
That is all its about, respect.
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It is about respect. It is also about kindness and humanity.
My daughter is trans. I wrote a wall of text about how our culture is cruel to her in ways both great and small, but I'm not posting it. It suffices to say that gender non-conforming people are ostracized, marginalized, and in danger every day of their lives.
Although we alone can only do so much to make those things better, there is one thing we can do, out of kindness if not out of respect. We can honor their names and pronouns.
Case:
--- Quote from: Emperor Norton on 26 Jan 2018, 12:06 ---sometimes inventing things that aren't even THERE. Seriously if half the stuff that offended the people on the forum was how they treated people they meet in real life, I can't imagine how they would ever have any friends.
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Sooooh ... best to imply they're social outcasts that nobody wants to be around, so they have something real to be offended by?
P.S.: Is there anybody left who knows who 'those people' and ... the other 'those people' are? I think this Forum has a serious problem with 'Those people whoTM ...'-debates. Well, it is a problem if you're one of those people who wonder what would happen if all the people who complain the loudest about those other people whoTM who are being too easily offended (or the ones who 'like' the complaints of the people who are offended about the people who are too easily offended) discovered that most of the people who they thought were on their side were actually referring to them when they were talking about "those people whoTM ...". The "other people whoTM", of course.
Savvy? :wink:
P.P.S.: That should about guarantee that everybody has a reason to suspect they might be implicated. And justified in being offended by it ...
Emperor Norton:
On the subject of pronouns: If someone identifies as a woman, I will use she/her, if they identify as a man, I will use he/him, if they identify as neither I will use they/them.
But I just can't memorize individual pronouns for every person who decides they need a new one. From a practical standpoint, and from the standpoint of I don't even know how xie is pronounced.
That was what I interpreted when the person said "their own pronouns", rather than saying they wouldn't identify a trans person by the gender they identify as.
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