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WCDT strips 3666 to 3670 (29th January to 2nd February 2018)
Technoir:
--- Quote from: Zebediah on 30 Jan 2018, 04:49 ---Same thing that happened to panel #6 in this. It's just a stylistic thing Jeph does from time to time to highlight certain beats.
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Danke! Never noticed it before, but for some reason it really jumped out at me yesterday.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: maneyan on 31 Jan 2018, 02:40 ---
--- Quote from: traroth on 31 Jan 2018, 02:29 ---
--- Quote from: fayelovesbubbles on 31 Jan 2018, 00:24 ---"Bubbles needs to chill, Evie didn't mean any harm."
Gee, where have I heard something like that before? Oh yes, white people telling me how to feel about racism, men telling me how to feel about misogyny and straight people telling me how to feel about homophobia.
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Every single one of us is a study subject for various science disciplines. Medecine, psychology, sociology... They all study us in a distantiated, depassionated way. And that's actually fine, because that's how science works.
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Pretty much this. From where I'm seeing it, the issue is not with Evie per se, it's simply with the fact that Bubbles is hypersensitive to these issues and can't really deal with that kind of scrutiny. This, after all, is a PTSD-suffering veteran whose main coping mechanism we've seen thus far is explosive violence towards things (that and tea admittedly). Still, it's this kind of scrutiny that is needed to build a greater understanding between people. Thus far we've seen laser-armed sociopath-bots (Pintsize), giant walker death robots (Deathbot 9000), 2.5 meter emotionally unstable Terminators (Bubbles), an omniscient demigod-bot etc. If that's the AI lineup I'm gonna say that "sorry, humanity is trying to understand you and being perceived as rude does not take precedence"
EDIT: Having reviewed the thread a bit more, I'm going to simply say "Yeah, Evie could have been way more diplomatic". Still: Bubbles should have been more clear she personally took offense. "Some might find that offensive" pretty much means "Some, not me", at least where I'm standing.
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That last bit is definitely where Bubbles could have been a lot more clear.
Personally, while Bubbles' anger is absolutely justified and should lead to a discussion with Evie so she understands why her approach to AI sociology was not cool, I also find it slightly disappointing that Bubbles felt the need to add the qualifier "for rich people's children". Not only is it completely unnecessary (the sentence reads just as good without it), it also implies that only rich kids are that stupid, which is highly unlikely (not to mention that we've seen no evidence that Evie is such a rich kid).
In addition, Evie did not 'merely shrug it off', she in fact acknowledged that the comparison was offensive. Yes, she could have, and I think should have, apologized for it, but Bubbles misinterprets or misrepresents Evie's response, in my opinion.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: MrNumbers on 30 Jan 2018, 22:57 ---Again, a conversation requires two participants. As I said before, Bubbles being hurt by it can be more seen as a reflection of Bubbles than Evie.
Like, if Evie took the exact same tact with Momo we would have seen a really cool discussion, for instance. Ev isn't psychic, she didn't dismiss Bubbles offense when it was brought up, she seems pretty empathetic in a lot of other ways. Bubbles just has a chip on her shoulder which happened to get homed in on with laser precision, which sucks.
So like... chill out, guys?
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I agree with your perception that the same conversation with Momo would likely have fared different and probably better.
However, we do not get to decide whether somebody has a reason to be offended. If they are, it usually warrants a conversation to see why that is and how both parties can work together to not have that.
Technoir:
A shame, really. Warm crumpets with butter and jam are delish!
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: Piscador on 31 Jan 2018, 03:54 ---I have to admit, the turn of events in #3668 caught me by surprise.
I really expected that Bubbles would be thoroughly pissed off with Faye, not Evie. Faye behaved horribly towards Melon. It wasn't just the condescending tone and words (although the whole 'domesticated robo-dick' dialog *was* pretty funny), it was the way that Faye took advantage of Melon's naiveté and accepted $100 for telling her to get batteries.
Bubbles and Faye's long-term business prospects depend on the good will of the AI community. I imagine that if something like that got out, their business would be damaged beyond repair.
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I have a feeling we might see some kind of resolution to the Faye/Melon thing as well at some point.
For now, we don't even know if Bubbles is aware of what exactly transpired in that whole transaction between them.
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