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WCDT strips 3666 to 3670 (29th January to 2nd February 2018)
APersonAmI:
In real life, if someone said that they would murder me, I would think less of that person. If someone I just met just hours before did that, it wouldn't matter to me if there is a possibility that they did it "in jest", I would think less of them.
I was going to say that I would be okay with someone I was a close friend with said they would murder me if it was clearly a joke and they had a significantly better delivery then Faye had in the comic, but actually thinking about it, no, I'd still see that as a character flaw. I once did something like that (in a more absurd way. The other person said "I would erect a magic shield before you could" in response, clearly taking it to be facetious), but I see me doing that as a sign of character flaws I had yet to resolve.
If someone says they will murder somebody else, I will think less of that person. If I say I will murder somebody, I will think less of myself. Especially so if you don't know eachother that well, but also in general.
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 30 Jan 2018, 07:16 ---Perhaps I am the odd one out.
For me personally, the threshold to call another human being "garbage" (i.e. worthless, to be discarded) is very, very high, and I typically only use that qualification if the person has shown evil intent.
People with flawed behaviors who unintentionally (without malice) hurt others typically don't qualify as garbage to me, especially if I know that the person has a backstory that may have something to do with certain behavioral patterns. I may strongly dislike them, avoid interactions, call them a*holes/d*cks/jerks/etc, but they'd still not be garbage.
To each their own.
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Fair. As for myself, it is not a word I would have chosen in a vacuum. I tend to act more forcefully when I feel as if violent people are defended, or if I feel people who question violent people are criticized. I would not have chosen “garbage” as a descriptor in my initial post were it not for this trait.
MrNumbers:
I like the person Faye has become.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: APersonAmI on 30 Jan 2018, 07:32 ---In real life, if someone said that they would murder me, I would think less of that person. If someone I just met just hours before did that, it wouldn't matter to me if there is a possibility that they did it "in jest", I would think less of them.
I was going to say that I would be okay with someone I was a close friend with said they would murder me if it was clearly a joke and they had a significantly better delivery then Faye had in the comic, but actually thinking about it, no, I'd still see that as a character flaw. I once did something like that (in a more absurd way. The other person said "I would erect a magic shield before you could" in response, clearly taking it to be facetious), but I see me doing that as a sign of character flaws I had yet to resolve.
If someone says they will murder somebody else, I will think less of that person. If I say I will murder somebody, I will think less of myself. Especially so if you don't know eachother that well, but also in general.
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Fair enough. As you already mentioned, you seem to have very low tolerance (not saying that that's a negative by the way) for using violence in any way, including jokes.
--- Quote from: APersonAmI on 30 Jan 2018, 07:32 ---
--- Quote from: dutchrvl on 30 Jan 2018, 07:16 ---Perhaps I am the odd one out.
For me personally, the threshold to call another human being "garbage" (i.e. worthless, to be discarded) is very, very high, and I typically only use that qualification if the person has shown evil intent.
People with flawed behaviors who unintentionally (without malice) hurt others typically don't qualify as garbage to me, especially if I know that the person has a backstory that may have something to do with certain behavioral patterns. I may strongly dislike them, avoid interactions, call them a*holes/d*cks/jerks/etc, but they'd still not be garbage.
To each their own.
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Fair. As for myself, it is not a word I would have chosen in a vacuum. I tend to act more forcefully when I feel as if violent people are defended, or if I feel people who question violent people are criticized. I would not have chosen “garbage” as a descriptor in my initial post were it not for this trait.
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I appreciate your honesty. You do realize though that your description/opinion of another person therefore depends on the opinions of 3rd parties.
dutchrvl:
--- Quote from: MrNumbers on 30 Jan 2018, 07:52 ---I like the person Faye has become.
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So do I, actually. I have some people in my life who may on the surface display very good behavior to other people (always polite etc.), but who are not attuned to other peoples' emotions very well and/or lack the capability/desire to function as a support system. I'd rather have Faye.
SpanielBear:
Out of interest, I really can't recall- when did Faye last actually indulge in physical violence? I get the impression that since the comic has grown more self-reflective, focusing on realistic emotional fall-out rather than absurdist slapstick (YMMV if that perception is correct or not, of course), incidents of actual physical violence by the cast have dropped hugely.
As far as threatening it is concerned- yeah, it's not cool that Faye does default to that so often, but a) it's rare she does so outside of obvious hyperbole, especially recently, and b) writing her off as a garbage person because of it seems to ignore the exaggerated misbehaviours of other cast members (Pintsize, May, Tai, Clinton and Dora have all had their moments) which are frequently displayed aspects of their character. If we give Pintsize a pass because this is a comic and his behaviours are obviously exaggerated, why does Faye not get the similar benefit of doubt? Alternatively, if we decide that anyone who has failed to behave righteously in every interaction must be shunned, the number of sympathetic characters in the comic rapidly drops to zero- so again, why single out Faye?
I don't think you have to like Faye. You can even find her unpleasant and objectionable, she certainly has character flaws. But portraying her as somehow egregiously foul and disgusting as a character seems... unnecessarily harsh.
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