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WCDT strips 3671 to 3675 (5th to 9th February 2018)
Aenno:
--- Quote from: Neko_Ali on 07 Feb 2018, 11:07 ---Because antropc bodies have specifically been designed to simulate human reactions. Or at least passing similarities. The in universe reasoning probably has something to do with allowing them to closely interact with humans in a way that humans are used to, to better foster human-android relations. The real reason is because Jeph wants them to react in ways similar to humans to better telegraph their emotions to us. Someone like Pintsize or Jeremy, either his old assembly arm or current more humanoid form lack these sorts of reactions so it's harder at a glance for use to identify their emotional state, meaning it has to be spelled out.
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And the question I'm trying to ask is - is it conscious effort from AI side, and what happens if we move Bubbles' mind into toaster?
ckridge:
Bubble's body responds without conscious control for the same reason our bodies do: consciousness is slow. I can only speculate about what consciousness is for, but it reviews action rather than initiating it. Running action past a review function, especially one as multi-purpose and sub-optimized as consciousness, is slow. So, as soon as bodies register severe stress, they automatically slam on the general emergency mode, inform the mind that they are good to go, and ask where to go.
[There is a heartbreaking moment in Peter Watts's novel Blindsight in which a soldier who controls a squad of insensate robot killers goes off to die as a rearguard. You know she is dead when her robots all suddenly speed up. They are much more efficient when no longer reviewed by a consciousness; only now there is nothing left with which you could ever possibly make peace.]
I would say that Bubbles feels attraction for romantic, not Platonic reasons. That is, she leads from the mind rather than the groin, but not because she detects the pure form of the Good in the other person, as Plato would have it, but because she feels something more like this:
Your two eyes will suddenly kill me. I am unable to endure their beauty, so keen is the wound that they make in my heart, and without the quick reassurance of your voice to heal this wound whilst it is fresh.
Your two eyes will suddenly kill me. I am unable to endure their beauty.
Upon my word, I tell you sincerely that you preside over my life and my death like a queen, and when I die, the truth of this shall be seen.
Your two eyes will suddenly kill me. I am unable to endure their beauty, so keen is the wound that they make in my heart.
-- Geoffrey Chaucer, Merciles Beaute I, prose translation by Richard Scott-Robinson
original here: http://www.bartleby.com/101/12.html
Only, in this case, perhaps not exactly eyes.
ckridge:
--- Quote from: Aenno on 07 Feb 2018, 11:24 ---And the question I'm trying to ask is - is it conscious effort from AI side, and what happens if we move Bubbles' mind into toaster?
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Out of her explosively responsive warrior body, Bubbles might not suffer quite so much, but she would have to work just as hard not to play the fool. Once you are locked into a sociocultural psychosexual matrix, it is not easy to get out, because as far as you can tell, that is just who you are.
Aenno:
As I'm intrested about this topic, I'm afraid it's kinda off-topic. Is it ok if I'd create separate thread about it?
haikupoet:
--- Quote from: BenRG on 07 Feb 2018, 02:06 ---I think that you're getting too deep into the whys and wherefores Aenno. All Jeph has to do is be internally consistent to his own universe. He is not obliged to make what he portrays in his work consistent to how real work AI would work.
FWIW, in the Halo universe, because they are directly derived from real human synaptic patterns, AIs subconsciously 'fill in the gaps' by creating in themselves reaction patterns that are analogous to attraction. So, they don't need any biological basis for it, they are 'psychosomatically' responding to what their intelligence algorithm insists ought to be there.
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That's pretty much the only sensible reason for Cortana's increasing sexiness over the course of the games - she's in love with Master Chief and made herself hotter the longer she was with him.
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