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(CW/TW: Abuse) WCDT strips 3731-3735 (30th April to 4th May 2018)
Dandi Andi:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 03 May 2018, 21:41 ---Buildings resonate around the frequencies of earthquake oscillations. Smart engineers de-tune the buildings to minimize how resonant they are.
Faye treated Momo like an object twice that I can think of. There was tossing her in the air like a toy, and there was looking up her skirt.
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Fundamentally, I agree with you. Her behavior towards Momo was very dehumanizing. Her presumptuousness was unacceptable.
But I also wonder about AI attitudes towards body autonomy. From our experience with Momo, Winslow and May, changing bodies is almost like changing clothes for at least some AI. Though it seems Roko has a much stronger connection to her body. I remember Faye tossing Momo around being treated as a one-off background joke without Momo addressing it, but I don't remember her reaction to Faye looking up her skirt. Did Momo object?
I tend to think of human/AI relationships in terms of a line from Legion in Mass Effect 2. "No 2 species are identical. All must be judged on their own merits. Treating every species like one's own is racist. Even benign anthropomorphism." Treating AI with the same dignity and respect due to all sapient life is important, but we may have to learn new standards of what that dignity and respect looks like.
Trebane:
I didn't interpret Faye's interactions with Momo as being anything more than light hearted jokes, Faye doesn't come across as uncaring or mean to AI, at worst you could call it
slightly ignorant but nothing malicious.
It is difficult to process a feeling of attraction towards the same gender especially if you believed you were hetero for your whole life, you question every moment and conversation and wonder if you were being nice or being gay. No wonder Faye tries to hide it behind a facade of not getting any in a while.
gopher:
Probably just me, but Faye is looking more and more like Tilly over the last few days.
chris73:
--- Quote from: pecoros7 on 03 May 2018, 23:12 ---
--- Quote from: chris73 on 03 May 2018, 20:58 ---Panel 4 is why I just can't warm to Faye or even care about any of her problems, shes still just a bully.
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I think I understand how you feel, but my feelings towards Faye have been more... ambiguous?
Hmm ok here we go, I guess I just don't understand certain things (sorry about how this comes across but it'd be easier in a bar) in this comic or indeed this message board. I see a lot of comics where female on male violence is generally treated somewhere between funny or well its bad but its not a big deal and I just have a real problem with that.
Sure violence can be funny but Fayes usually uses violence to threaten or shut down or just intimidate people and thats not funny and yet Faye seems to get a pass because she had a Traumatic Experience(TM) but her threatening, bullying behavior is still happening
Say that you think Tilly is a girl because she looks, talks, has the mannerisms, acts, dresses and has the interests of a girl and watch what happens yet someone punching other people and thats fine, apparantly
Yeah Faye has some good points but so do most abusers (my father certainly did) and I'm not sure how many years its been for Faye since her Traumatic Experience(TM) but as she says her own instinct is to punch (and Marten was already wincing in response to the blow) so for me that makes her a bully and as for Marten rwell he eminds me in certain ways of my own mother and in this instance thats not a good thing
Is it really a friendship where you have to worry about what you say because you'll get punched, no it isn't, Marten isn't Fayes friend hes her punching bag (emotionally and physically)
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awgiedawgie:
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 03 May 2018, 23:26 ---Imagine a human telling another human "When I look at you I don't see black". Aside from the zinger "Oh really? Have you turned in your driver's license?", it carries a whiff of implication that treating the person as an equal requires not noticing their ethnicity.
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Interestingly enough, that's really close to how I see my friends. Sure, intellectually, I know some of them are black, some are Asian, etc., but for all intents and purposes, when I'm talking to them, I don't see their color. I see them as my friends, and as people. It's not a question of noticing their ethnicity, but rather of focusing on it. Most of the time, a person's race is almost entirely irrelevant. When you're hanging out with someone, or going to a concert, or the monster truck rally, or whatever, what difference does it really make what color skin your friends have? And in the few situations where one of my friends' race is a relevant detail, I have enough respect for them to treat it that way.
I feel like many AIs would love it if humans would occasionally forget that they are different, and simply treat them as ordinary people.
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