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(CW/TW: Abuse) WCDT strips 3731-3735 (30th April to 4th May 2018)
chris73:
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--- Quote from: chris73 on 04 May 2018, 01:38 ---Physical violence is worse than any spoken or written word
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I respectfully disagree with you. You have a very understandable personal bias against physical abuse, and I don't want to sound like I'm trivializing that. But verbal abuse can cause just as much psychological damage, and on a much more frequent basis. And verbal abuse can go entirely unnoticed by outsiders, so it tends to go on for a much longer time span. And possibly the worst part about it is that the abuser may not even realize that they are doing it unless someone points it out. I know a father whose 8-year-old son looked at him and said "Dad, you scare me." He was floored. He had no idea the effect he was having on his children up until then.
Don't get me wrong, I also think that some people are way too sensitive about certain subjects, but that has nothing to do with any kind of abuse.
That notwithstanding, I agree with you that Faye's treatment of Marten is infuriating. Sure, she has issues, but even she herself admitted that those are no excuse for behaving the way she does. She calls him her best friend, and yet routinely treated him worse than the bastard offspring of the neighbor's half-breed mutt. I am kind of a real-life Marten - I'll go out of my way to help people that others won't give the time of day - but there's no way in hell I would have put up with her hitting me more than once. Granted, I am bigger and stronger than Marten, so I could actually stop her if she swung at me. But even without the wherewithal to physically defend himself, Marten could still have given her a simple ultimatum - either knock it off, or find a new home.
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Fair enough, we all have our trigger points. After reading your post it just occurred that maybe whats bothering is the minimization of Fayes actions towards to Marten, has he ever actually told her to not hit him?
That and when Faye started intimidating Claire (the bit about marking her territory and the hair in the shower) and Marten didn't say anything, didn't step into protect Claire or anything, that really bugged me
QuestionableIntentions:
Hahaha, women hurting men, so funny
Tova:
What are your intentions?
Cornelius:
--- Quote from: chris73 on 04 May 2018, 02:31 ---If you had to choose between being physically abused or verbally abused and the physical abuse went on for as long as the verbal abuse what would you choose?
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I'd rather not answer the question, as you usually don't get to choose. From my own experience, though, the physical violence has had much less long lasting impact.
--- Quote from: chris73 on 04 May 2018, 02:58 ---
--- Quote from: awgiedawgie on 04 May 2018, 02:45 ---...
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Fair enough, we all have our trigger points. After reading your post it just occurred that maybe whats bothering is the minimization of Fayes actions towards to Marten, has he ever actually told her to not hit him?
That and when Faye started intimidating Claire (the bit about marking her territory and the hair in the shower) and Marten didn't say anything, didn't step into protect Claire or anything, that really bugged me
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I can understand that. That's one of the points Marten needs to work on, standing up for himself, and others. In some of the comics, though, there is a very fine line between comedic hyperbole, and actual threats.
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: Case on 03 May 2018, 06:13 ---
--- Quote from: JoeCovenant on 03 May 2018, 05:25 ---As I said, I can *see* why it may have happened. It's just a little jarring in my personal experience.
(I was a pro actor for many many years. And knew, met and was very close friends with a lot of gay guys, and lesbian women. But at no point did my love for them even think of developing into anything else. (And yes, I got offers!) :) )
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Well ... your finding the experience of discovering that you're not as straight as you thought you were to be outside your experience is pretty much par for the course for someone who is exactly as straight as he thought he was, no? :-D
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I'm trying my best to parse that... But I think I'm failing!! :)
--- Quote from: Case on 03 May 2018, 06:13 ---Shortly before Jeph cliff-hangered the Faybles-arc, when we were all getting in each others' hairs about the nature of Faye's feelings for Bubbles, the matter of Faye's age came up, too, and there were two fellow forumites who said that this was pretty much their experience of discovering they weren't done learning about their orientation ...
(IIRC, one said that she had mistaken her attraction to her then-friend-now-partner as 'merely finding her aesthetically pleasing', until the "Oh? Ohhh!"-moment. I can't speak from experience, but I find that entirely plausible)
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Yeah, I guess what I'm saying is (in fact I'm sure I said it before) what I find most jarring about this is that it IS so far from my experience.
To me, Faye has always been shown as (for want of a better term) 'straight', and neither interested in women, nor robots in a sexual sense.
It's been suggested (I think?) that being surrounded by robots and people of other sexualities has led Faye to suddenly 'discover' this latent, Les/BI/Whichever/RoboSexuality.
All I've been saying is that in my experience, being surrounded and great friends with, and loving gay and lesbian people... Didn't do anything to 'my' sexuality in the slightest.
I get that people can be 'in denial' about their own sexuality and then have that sexuality come charging to the fore - (I heard that story a lot from some of my gay male friends) - but Faye has never been seen to be "In denial" about her sexuality, and this sudden shift just jars with me... as it's outside my own experience.
(PLEASE NOTE: I am NOT saying it is WRONG! Only that it's outwith my experience... and thus seems strange.)
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