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(CW/TW: Abuse) WCDT strips 3731-3735 (30th April to 4th May 2018)

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Dandi Andi:

--- Quote from: Morituri on 04 May 2018, 16:42 ---Faye isn't even going that far.  Has Faye ever actually injured someone in this comic?  I can't recall a single time.  In the absence of any indication that anyone has ever been actually physically hurt by her, I don't think I can take her so-called violence as an indication that she's physically abusive. 

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I don't think that doing lasting physical damage should be our standard of whether or not violence against someone is acceptable. My ex-wife punched me in the face. She didn't break my nose, but it did hurt and it was not OK. As HiFranc pointed out, Marten and Dora have expressed a preference for not getting punched.

"We like the fact that we can horse around with you a little bit without having to fear for our lives."

"Yeah. It makes you a lot more fun to be around."

And that was more than 3000 strips ago, before the strip started turning more realistic. And Faye's respect for people's boundaries has been highly selective. She has shown poor respect for Claire and Momo both. While some degree of violence absolutely can be acceptable in a relationship, it is only so if it happens within and with respect for the boundaries set by the people in that relationship.

Is it cold in here?:
As got mentioned in passing above, the kind of people who operate shelters for male DV victims refuse to associate themselves with MRA types.

Marten did not move out or call the police or tell Faye to stop. Fact.

Faye did not take away Marten's money or drive away his friends. Fact.

Marten is not a good judge of what's going on because he does not have a normal ability to stand up for himself. I cite his mother's first visit. We don't have to agree with Marten about the seriousness of Faye's punches.

awgiedawgie:
Also, one unfortunate problem that can complicate matters - and this may or may not be the case with Marten - is that some people gravitate toward abusive friends or partners simply because they feel they deserve to be treated that way, or that they don't deserve to be treated any better. As I mentioned in another thread, my ex-wife left me for a man who routinely beat her and rarely let her out of the house. Because she was convinced that she wasn't good enough to be treated nice. And no amount of effort on my part could convince her otherwise. She felt she deserved to be mistreated, and she knew she wasn't going to get that from me.


No, this tendency in no way excuses Faye's behaviour, but it might explain why Marten - considering his childhood - may not have objected more forcefully, or why he couldn't object more forcefully, to Faye's actions. I really hope that this does not sabotage the healthy relationship he has so far enjoyed with Claire.

Morituri:
I wasn't EVEN talking about lasting damage.  I don't think Faye has ever left so much as a bruise on anybody.  She did dent Corpse Witch with a punch, but it would have taken a better-than-average person to resist that temptation.

In fact, and this may just be not having noticed it on my part or not remembering it, I don't recall any other single time one of her "punches" has ever actually landed, on anybody. 

She makes threats, a lot, and that's not cool. But I just don't see her engaging in actual violence except very very seldom and  when very badly provoked.

awgiedawgie:
For the record, she bruised Marten repeatedly. I think I recall twice he remarked (maybe joking, maybe not) that he thought his arm was broken, and once he thought he might have a concussion. She also put a huge bruise on Hannerelore's arm because she was drunk and didn't know who she was hitting (it was meant for Marten's Dad). She gave Raven a full body flip in retaliation for tickling, and got in a fight with Penny at CoD. And she threw Angus across the barroom just for talking to her. None of those were what I would call "badly provoked".


She beat Clinton up with his own hand once, but he deserved that.


There may be other instances I don't remember right now, but I don't have time to look for them this morning - I'm meeting family for breakfast.

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