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(CW/TW: Abuse) WCDT strips 3731-3735 (30th April to 4th May 2018)
JoeCovenant:
--- Quote from: Thrillho on 01 May 2018, 04:30 ---When I read this morning's comic I literally said 'AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SHIT SON' out loud.
Then chastised myself via inner monologue over cultural appropriation, but you know.
--- Quote from: Morituri on 30 Apr 2018, 12:39 ---I personally find it upsetting when the main WCDT is mainly gossipy speculation about romantic/sexual relationships.
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The moderators are in discussion about this, but do bear in mind that the 'no shipping' rule was mainly due to how outlandish the shipping was; the strip is itself laying out a lot of potential relationships so it's become more complicated, but we're talking about it in the mod forum.
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For the Bubbles / Faye thing... I can understand the shipping.
I just think it's gotten to a stage where people are putting things on characters (Faye) which I'm just NOT seeing. (I see no mutual romantic feelings on Faye's part.. others seem to...)
but whenever the shipping gets a bit much in here, I always think.. "At least it's not the DoA comments page."
Character A appears in frame.
Character B appears in frame.
Character A says something nice... or horrible... or comments on the weather.
3/4 of the comments = "THEY GONNA FUUUUUUUUUUU......"
Gets REALLY wearing...
Vern LaVey:
--- Quote from: Morituri on 30 Apr 2018, 12:39 ---If I'm not personally the object of their attention, it's still just petty gossip, and it diminishes my perception of people when they behave like petty gossips. I just wind up waiting for it to be over, and hoping people will stop behaving that way.
So anyway.... To make it short, I'm uncomfortable with the shipping. I dislike it, usually avoid threads where it's the main event, and sincerely miss the eager enforcement of the no-shipping rule this board used to have. I personally find it upsetting when the main WCDT is mainly gossipy speculation about romantic/sexual relationships.
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I get the adversity towards random character shipping, but the current Faye/Bubbles plot is completely fueled by unresolved sexual tension. It's living off of the hopes of the fan base, and Jeph is pretty obviously relishing the slow burn... the teasing.
I can understand it making you uncomfortable, but going beyond that and saying that it "diminishes your perception" of those people who are allowing themselves to be engulfed in the story just seems douchey. Again, this isn't some random fandom shipping, but the story that Jeph is telling.
In other words... you're getting mad at the passengers on the Jeph-Bus for the direction they're going when they're just along for the ride. It seems to me that at this point your problem is more with the driver.
JimC:
I dunno, for all that our writer seems to be happily playing games with the shippers, I still think unrestricted submarine warfare is the right approach.
NemesisDancer:
--- Quote from: Bad Superman on 30 Apr 2018, 12:39 ---That being said, I think their story arc should get resolved (or at least taken to the next a new stage of development) sooner rather than later.
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I'm getting a bit bored of the drawn-out Faye/Bubbles ship tease, to be honest (though that's possibly because I'm not a particularly strong shipper of them), so I hope it gets resolved soon too. Was looking forward to this week's comics as I thought we were going to see more of what Hannelore had been up to, but I suppose there are still a few more days to go ^_^
Morituri:
I guess my personal issues with people gossiping about / pushing for / each other's relationships get grounded here, and probably make me more sensitive to it than I have any good reasons to be. "Diminishes my perception of" is literal truth, though it reveals a streak of intolerance in myself wider than I'd like.
I don't think it's a problem with where the story's going though; mostly I see it as a problem with people having picked something in the future as a "destination" and now being focused on the unseen destination rather than allowing themselves to enjoy the trip.
Where they see a "ship tease" I see characters in a relationship that now includes some tension and some attraction and some denial and some doublethink and some orientation/identity issues. It's nuanced, and it's good character development, and the current situation is as much the "destination" as any other part of the trip. So why doesn't anybody seem to appreciate the current situation as a thing in itself, instead of just as a transitory state toward what they imagine some future situation might be?
Everybody could see, a year ago or so, that Corpse Witch was in need of a swift buttkick out of Faye & Bubbles' life. And just such a buttkick did eventually arrive. But I don't recall any serious obsessing about what form and shape that buttkick would take or how it was going to be delivered or by whom or even when. It wasn't a "tease", it was story development. And people were interested in all the bits of story along the way. People speculated about CW's past, about the skatepark's ownership, about what had been done to Bubbles, about whether CW was trying to get leverage over Faye, about past interactions between CW and the police, about corruption and complicity, etc etc etc, and it was all about the story as it was happening. We didn't have everybody focused on the single future buttkicking event as the only possible point of the whole story.
Now they are focused on one thing. They are focused on the development or non-development of romantic/sexual love between these characters. And everything else is getting lost, or passing them by, without any thought or discussion or, it seems to me, even perception. They are invested in particular outcomes, like romance or rejection etc, instead of being able to accept that good stories can be built around whatever outcome comes about. That's even true if the "outcome" is long-term continuation of the tension, since after all the author may be telling a DIFFERENT story using the tension for character depth to inform how these characters see someone ELSE's situation.
To me the sexual/romantic aspect of this character relationship is one topic. It's about five percent of what there is to discuss. It's in the future and a bunch of other things are in the present. When fifty percent of the discussion is used to talk about five percent of the subject matter, I get impatient and wonder why people are being so willfully blind to everything else.
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