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WCDT strips 3736-3740 (May 6th-10th 2018)
Gyrre:
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--- Quote from: Gyrre on 07 May 2018, 02:59 ---"The bonds forged in blood are thicker than the water of the womb."
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Just did a web quick search and the first phrase that popped out at me was "Effect of amniotic fluid on intra-abdominal adhesion ...." from a study using Bovine amniotic fluid as a mediator in non-scarring healing, so that seems to put the kibosh that particular axiom.
I do know that Bovine Blood sera is used commercially as a base for a number of industrial and medical bonding agents though the medical uses still leads to scarring.
If I remember correctly what little I learned back in college on the topic, scar tissue is never as good as the original in most cases.
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Amniotic fluid and blood serum are really not the same thing.
This is actually all based on a side effect discovered in a study on mice as a test model for prenatal surgery, or something like that; it was about twenty years ago. Anyway they determined that their techniques worked OK, but they also accidentally discovered that the mouse embryos they were working on showed no scarring at all. One of the dudes doing the original study decided this unexpected phenomenon was way more interesting than the actual objective and decided to prove it by getting some amniotic fluid and cutting himself, then applying the fluid to the injury before bandaging it. He healed without scarring and got his funding for a proper study.
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I always thought that the saying was about hard-forged friendships/relationships being more important/holding more weight than familial ties. I know the bastardization of the phrase is usually meant to imply the exact opposite. The bastardized version being "blood is thicker than water".
Is it cold in here?:
I think "blood is thicker than water" came first and the other was a counter to it.
My bond with my wife, a voluntary and conscious commitment into which we've invested constant effort for twenty years, is stronger than that with any of my blood relatives.
Shjade:
--- Quote from: pecoros7 on 07 May 2018, 16:30 ---
--- Quote from: Shjade on 07 May 2018, 12:38 ---TIL: posters in this forum have a pretty liberal (not THAT kind, don't get sidetracked) view of what constitutes "rejection."
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If by "posters" you mean to say me (since I think I'm the only one who has discussed rejection at any length today), I hardly think I am indicative of the community in general. *Edit- BenRG has also talked about it, but not with many specific examples, so my assumption may be unfair*
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I mean. There's also hakko504, whose post that was literally directly above mine stated
--- Quote from: hakko504 on 07 May 2018, 12:03 ---Don't forget that Clinton was rejected by Emily, which set of the things that led to him meeting Brun in the first place.
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keithcurtis:
I find it a bit confusing that there is debate over shipping/not shipping in a comic which is by and large entirely about relationships. I've been waiting for the resolution to this particular situation for some time, but am content to have it unfold as the creator desires. But I specifically came to this forum to hear what other readers think. So far I'm pretty impressed with the civility and diversity of comments, but I do find it distressing when folks post about how they want other people to approach the subject.
awgiedawgie:
--- Quote from: Gyrre on 07 May 2018, 17:41 ---I always thought that the saying was about hard-forged friendships/relationships being more important/holding more weight than familial ties. I know the bastardization of the phrase is usually meant to imply the exact opposite. The bastardized version being "blood is thicker than water".
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I don't know that ties forged in blood are more important or hold more weight than familial ties, but depending on the circumstances, those bonds can certainly become stronger than family. Although I do know a couple people who don't place much importance at all on their family. For them, their bond with the girl at the coffee shop is probably more important. Thankfully, I consider them the exception to the rule.
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 07 May 2018, 18:36 ---I think "blood is thicker than water" came first and the other was a counter to it.
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And you would be quite correct.
"Blood is thicker than water" can be traced back to Germany in 1180 ("family blood is not spoiled by water"). It apparently refers to family ties being stronger than the distance of being away at sea. According to the Online Etymology Dictionary, "blood is thicker than water" entered English at least as far back as 1803. There is also a quote from the London times from 1855: "blood is thicker than water, and one's own barn nearer than one's neighbour's house."
From what I can find, the "blood of the covenant" version is only 20 or 30 years old.
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