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WCDT strips 3741 to 3745 (May 14th - 18th 2018)
Case:
--- Quote from: Tova on 15 May 2018, 16:05 ---All the nautical metaphors are making me feel queasy.
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There ya go
Nothing 'phorical about that one ...
BillGuy:
--- Quote from: pecoros7 on 15 May 2018, 00:45 ---
--- Quote from: Is it cold in here? on 14 May 2018, 23:17 ---One wrinkle is that 347 came from a time when Jeph was handling AnthroPCs completely differently from today and it may no longer be canon.
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That's very true, and I did admit that other events suggest that Jeph was moving away from his initial stance on AI gender. But I think that the way he is developing AI characters and his approach to gender in general suggests to me that he would be moving towards a position more closely resembling gender essentialism rather than further from it. If Jeph treated gender as being something independent of the chassis even then, I cannot imagine he would do otherwise now, especially considering his marvelous handling of Claire and her relationship with her body.*
*I am thinking specifically of Claire and Marten's first night of sexual intimacy and Claire disrobing and saying "this is me". Jeph's decision to not reveal the status of her transition and subsequent refusal to do so is really powerful for me. It is a meaningful declaration that the particular shape of her body has nothing to do with her being a woman. I simply cannot believe he would do any different for Bubbles.
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I think the real mark of change I think was when 'the singularity happened' in strip 1777. It seems to be after this there is a significant change in all AI's as a whole in the comic. Granted this is right before the Martin/Dora break-up so it's not till over a hundred strips later when we touch on it again, meet Clinton and AI civil rights is mentioned. In strip 1921 we do still have mention of PT410X and his obviously HORRIBLE 'owner' but by strip 1997 we have Momo getting her new chassis and BAM! the first humanoid AI's we've seen since Hanners's dad sent her the 'boyfriend.' After that it snowballs, strips 2068-2072 we see Clinton again and further the AI's story-line along further, strip 2085 brings Momo's reading the book 'AI Civil Rights: An Organic (can't make it out)', 2283-2285 Momo and Emily talk about companion AI relationship contracts, 2332 Momo and Pintsize talk compainionship.. Then the next strip Jeph gets revisionist and the AI workng the 'AnthroPC Companion Connections' place is a humanoid AI much like all the ones we see now..
I guess what I'm saying is, there was a point where things changed for AI's and they rapidly advanced in the QC verse and their sexuality is no different.
awgiedawgie:
--- Quote from: BillGuy on 15 May 2018, 19:00 ---...strip 2085 brings Momo's reading the book 'AI Civil Rights: An Organic (can't make it out)'...
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FWIW, I read that title as AI Civil Rights: An Ongoing Debate. I could be wrong, of course, since it is rather impossible to actually make out most of the letters, but it does make sense when you consider the opening paragraph of the full text on Jeph's tumblr post is
--- Quote ---The subject of this debate is whether AIs are “people-” whether they possess the same degree of personhood as humans, and whether that entitles them to the same rights.
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Gyrre:
On the subject of the poll, there's a small(ish) species of bear in South America called the spectacled bear.
Perhaps Marbear could be one of those.
Storel:
Yeah, I think they want to talk in private, not in front of Dora and Tai and whoever else walks into CoD.
Notice how Fay has her hand on Bubbles's arm as they leave? They know something's changed. But I bet they get the rest of their work done for the day before they start talking about it.
Either that, or they start trying to talk about it as soon as they get back to the shop, only to keep getting interrupted by more customers than they've had all month. Jeph does enjoy torturing his characters so... :evil:
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